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Originally Posted by Dylans47
Normally I might agree, but in this case they've only improved the car. I've owned 3 miatas, and a first year FRS. I'm all for what you're talking about and I know where you're coming from.
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Small rant because it sucks to hear complaints about things that either don't exist, or aren't an issue, especially when Toyota did an incredible job on the GR86.
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There are many ways to improve a car. When Toyota requested in first generation to achieve a 100ps/liter, the first reaction of Subaru engineers was that this cannot be achieved and that they should increase the engine displacement. Toyota insisted that there should be another way and introduced the D4-S system together with other engine improvements. We haven't seen much on the new car yet, but for me some things are bad decisions and contrary to popular belief the involvement of Toyota wasn't the same as in the first gen. About the rest you can check below.
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Originally Posted by Frost
I think there's a slight bias in the approach with this comment here... Toyota is not going to add an option to the system for someone to delete the air-con. They want to mass buy stuff to keep costs down but you're asking them to add cost so you can save cost. And that's just you - how many buyers (not potential but REAL buyers) will actually exercise this option? And will that offset the savings they net from the mass buy of the parts?
Answer is probably - its worth it to piss off the one or two people who want to delete stuff. They can do it themselves for x dollars while we potentially save y (much bigger amount dollars).
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There isn't any bias at all. They did it in the past and now they are not doing it. This was exactly what they meant by saying "built by passion not by committee". Like the option to offer two different climate control units – one for the enthusiast and one for the ordinary buyer with dual zone – and the option of an A/C delete without caring about the extra manufacturing costs. It is the little details that count.