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Originally Posted by cjd
Data suggests the vaccine will still improve your chance of surviving it.
Your initial assertions contain some questionable data - I'd be interested in the sources. Your suggestion has general health benefits to be sure, but certainly is not a reasonable alternative to being vaccinated. It might dent deaths a little, but not rate of infection or spread, and those are the numbers we need to reduce (in doing so we also reduce deaths of course)
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So you are suggesting If I wake up tomorrow struggling to breath, and then administer the vaccine at the moment it will provide benefit?
From the CDC
"Obesity Worsens Outcomes from COVID-19
Adults with excess weight are at even greater risk during the COVID-19 pandemic:
Having obesity increases the risk of severe illness from COVID-19. People who are overweight may also be at increased risk.
Having obesity may triple the risk of hospitalization due to a COVID-19 infection.
Obesity is linked to impaired immune function.2,3
Obesity decreases lung capacity and reserve and can make ventilation more difficult.4
A study of COVID-19 cases suggests that risks of hospitalization, intensive care unit admission, invasive mechanical ventilation, and death are higher with increasing BMI.5
The increased risk for hospitalization or death was particularly pronounced in those under age 65. 5
More than 900,000 adult COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred in the United States between the beginning of the pandemic and November 18, 2020. Models estimate that 271,800 (30.2%) of these hospitalizations were attributed to obesity.6
Children diagnosed with obesity may suffer worse outcomes from COVID-19. In a study of COVID-19 cases in patients aged 18 years and younger, having obesity was associated with a 3.07 times higher risk of hospitalization and a 1.42 times higher risk of severe illness (intensive care unit admission, invasive mechanical ventilation, or death) when hospitalized.7"
We should also be targeting cigerett smokers.
Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States
Total economic cost of smoking is more than $300 billion a year
Here is obesity numbers
Obesity is responsible for 300,000 deaths per year in the united states
Total econmic cost of obesity is more than $190 billion a year.
Think of the cost and stress on the medical system, all the ER beds etc.. being occupied by preventable causes. These beds could be used for covid patience.
some more information on smokers
Smoking doubles your risk of developing respiratory infections.
Smoking doubles your risk of getting sicker from COVID-19.
Vaping can also harm lung health.
So yeah ending obesity will have a drastic improvement to covid deaths and spreading of covid. in addition to all the benefits un related to covid.
Same with ending smoking.
People talk about the burden on our health system, and cost of covid and people choosing to not get vaccinated etc...
Apply the same rational to obesity and cigarette smokers since they are costing us way more. Both related to Covid and unrelated.