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Originally Posted by MuseChaser
Where did anyone do that? I sure didn't.... as a matter of fact, I was pretty clear that THE most important benefit of the vaccine was relieving pressure on the health care system...
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If you mean get us to a place that no single person ever dies because an ER was full or because care wasn't available fast enough, the sad reality is that we will never be there, Covid or no Covid. If you mean that a huge spike in people being sentenced to death is being caused by the virus overwhelming hospital beds and physical facilities, and that we need to reduce that number, there's a couple things we can look at.
How many times has that truly happened? There are other contributors to this thread, actively working in health care, that can answer that and I'd welcome first hand knowledge. From what I've read, most of the time the issue has not been facilities, but rather extremely short staffing. Motivating badly needed staff to retire or resign due to mandates is the opposite of helpful in that situation. In my area, especially when we were under stricter lockdowns, our hospitals weren't overloaded... they were almost empty, and on the verge of bankruptcy. If the issue is short staffing, and it seems to be, then THAT is one thing we should address while we continue to look at ways to keep people out of hospitals.
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On the first - I didn't name names for a reason. I'd agree it doesn't apply to you based on your self-quotes, and I have no reason to try to find evidence to the contrary. It really was part of a general reply after reading a bunch of pages.
On the second: I don't have an answer. It is happening. It is preventable. And it is stressing the system, which is showing signs of cracking: if that cracking gets worse it amplifies the problem. So.
Ideas, potential solutions. What are some we haven't tried? How do we get past the things we don't like, whatever they are? They won't go away while we have major public health issues to contend with. I don't really care if some people don't like mandates. I understand, in fact, as I'm not a fan either. But I understand the need, and the data I've seen suggests they can work.
edit: solutions to the public health crisis at hand, for which our current best answer remains, at this time, vaccines (and masks and distancing and ...)