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Old 08-28-2021, 12:50 PM   #472
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These are socially destructive. Yet in refusing proven safe (if sometimes inconvenient) countermeasures, a large group are in fact dismissing facts. In doing so, they are making all the fallout that much more prolonged while railing against that very thing.
Debating whether we're counting deaths right is just... I don't even have the words.
i was just talking about this with my dad. of the people that i know that are 'recent' non-vaxxers(so ignoring the people that were anti-vax pre-covid), all of them are heavy facebook users.

i was telling my dad i'd like to see something charted showing the relationship between those that are heavy social media users, and anti-vax. i think there's a lot of correlation that these people are getting sucked into a digital feedback loop of their own doing, and not even realizing it. i know that i barely get any new youtube recommendations anymore, and by those standards, have essentially reached the 'end' of youtube in a very short while-- which should be technically impossible given the size and scope of youtube as a video platform...

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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e2.htm

Basically, a teacher who was infected came to school and shed the virus off on their students, those students then brought it back home to their relatives.





And because I know you'll mention it:



None of the parents were in the classroom with the infected patient here.

So how exactly does it matter that the chances are low unless you are in a congested environment?

What about grandparents (theorizing here) who are legal guardians of said children or immunocompromised parents who would be home a majority of the time, yet are exposed because just one teacher had some symptoms and decided not only to continue coming into one environment, but also removing their mask to read aloud (which you can do just fine while wearing a mask)?
another different tangent-- i was extremely surprised at how fast and hard schools pushed for in-person learning again. there were a few articles discussing how it's the only real way that many for-profit educational facilities could justify their current pricing structure. it was really an interesting discussion topic, but then it almost seemed like those articles got buried by other stuff, almost intentionally.

i especially understand grade schools going back to in-person due to the great number of issues with kids(transport, supervision, attention, area to work, scheduling to name a few), but anything of the higher-education stuff, where it's capable adults participating, i just don't see the point.

it seemed like collegiate courses were initially transitioning to a online format that would make ease-of-access a priority, and encourage even those in lesser job/financial positions to participate and gain the benefit of a degree program. but as soon as they could, they went back to the status quo...
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