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Originally Posted by Tcoat
Have we not been very very clear that these cars have SUMMER tires? It is a performance oriented car that comes with performance oriented tires as stock.
Most cars come with "All Season" which can take at least a little cold but still are no substitute for real winter tires where people have real winters.
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This is how the conversation is going, with concepts swapped out for clarity.
"This car is red"
"This car is red"
"This car is red"
"This car is a truck"
"Wait, this car is a truck?"
"I think we've all clearly said the car is red."
Yes. You've been abundantly clear that the car comes on summer tires. That wasn't even remotely close to what I was saying. I was talking about the tires themselves being damaged by temperatures most of North America experiences for extended periods every year.
So unless "summer tires" is synonymous with "tires will be damaged by use under 40F" AND you believe that those two things are both linked and common knowledge, one doesn't equal the other with clarity.
I'm not a tire expert. I know the basics. I know that summer tires don't grip properly in the winter. I don't know that summer tires are damaged by winter driving. That seems possible, but I don't know if it's true, and this is the first place I've ever heard that.
Since I know more about cars than the average person, and I don't know that, I'd say "summer tires are damaged by winter driving" is not common knowledge.
If it's true, and if you're under the impression that saying "the car has summer tires" is functionally the same as saying "the car has tires that are damaged by winter driving" that would only be true for the limited number of people who know enough about tires to know that particular translation.
So you guys tell me - are all summer tires actually damaged by winter temperatures?
If not, then no, being "very very clear that these cars have SUMMER tires" isn't the same as them being damaged by winter driving.
If yes, then no, it's not clear. Only people who know more than a little about tires would be able to put all the pieces together.
Possible options:
A: All summer tires are damaged by winter driving.
B: No summer tires are damaged by winter driving.
C: Some summer tires are damaged by winter driving.
D: These specific summer tires are damaged by winter driving.
(C and D are basically the same, but with a slight clarification or hedging of one's statements.)