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Originally Posted by MuseChaser
Maybe you should stop making incorrect and insulting assumptions about other people. Go back and read my initial post in this thread...
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...7&postcount=24
Pay close attention to what I said in items #2 and #3, as well as the paragraph immediately following item #5. Let me know if you have any difficulty understanding the prose I used.
Again, for the third (and continually and evidently futile) time, your assertion that those who don't agree with you also, therefore, don't care about others, deaths, suffering, etc, is just incredibly and disgustingly closeminded, arrogant, condescending, and insulting. Debate your points, cite statistics, give rationale for your opinions... fine. No problems with that. Insult and mischaracterize those who can do the same thing to explain THEIR viewpoints that differ from yours? Yes, that's a VERY big problem.
My wife and I were on vacation on a small island in Mexico about four years ago, having a wonderful time on a beach. A friendly person overhead us talking long enough to hear we weren't European or Mexican, and he asked us where we were from. We mentioned that we lived in upstate NY, US, and he replied that he was from Ontario. He then, immediately, launched into a diatribe about how awful our newly elected president was, how much better Canada was, and how sorry he was for us. I politely mentioned a couple positive takes on our nation and our newly elected president, and he proceeded for the next hour to follow us up and down the beach... LITERALLY... haranguing me for my opinions. I tried to have a discussion, but couldn't.. he just wouldn't stop or listen. Then, I said, "Look, we're on vacation, and I don't enjoy political discussions even when I'm not. Please leave us alone, and enjoy your day." He still didn't. We had to leave the beach to get away from him.
He was the worst example, but we had similar experiences throughout that week... and all from Canadians. DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND ME. I lived four miles from the Canadian border for many years. I love Canada. I've been camping and fishing in midwest Quebec since the early 1970s, far north of Maniwaki. I've spent many, MANY wonderful weekends in Kingston, Ottawa, Montreal. Spent our honeymoon on PEI, and have been there many times. Gaspe peninsula, Cabot Trail, Nova Scotia... just amazing places. Getting to the wilds of British Columbia, and Vancouver are on my bucket list. Like every other place on earth, most of the people are wonderful and there's a few idiots. Why there was such a concentration of the obnoxious, opinionated know-it-alls on the Mexican island that week baffles me, but it was extremely unfortunate.
This thread brings back those awful memories. |
I read the post you linked to in your message. One thing that strikes me is your level of confidence that you can easily avoid covid infection and resulting transmission. I read your regimen and it seems very similar to what the CDC recommended. Indeed, very similar to mine. That is commendable. That said, many people I know have been convinced they were doing the same things. A couple of them are dead now.
The conclusion you draw from that point (#2) is that the probability of your passing the infection along is exceedingly low.
Perhaps our perspectives, or the realities in which we live, are incompatible. You believe you can easily avoid infection and acting as a disease vector. From my observations of the world I live in, the virus is quite easy to contract and spread, despite taking precautions. The virus is, as is life in general, a study in applied probability. Fortune plays a crucial role. And generalizing from your personal experience or from mine is simply fallacious.
As you noted people can contract Covid 19 and become less ill than someone who receives the vaccine. And as we all know, many people have contracted the disease and been completely asymptomatic. The difference between the person who contracted the virus with few to no symptoms and your vaccine experience is that person could have died from the disease or could have infected others who similarly could have died. As has been amply documented, the virus is orders of magnitude more deadly than the flu.
Despite your unfortunate side effects, the probability of your becoming acutely ill from the vaccine is virtually non-existent and the probability of your passing it along as a result is effectively zero.
I am glad you got vaccinated, even if you did so under duress. Vaxed is vaxed is, for now, removed from the pool of potential vectors. That you would have ventured unvaccinated into the company of others of unknown vaccination status, donning a mask only if requested disappoints me. If it seems like I am judging you, I guess I am. My apologies - to an extent. I am sure you are convinced that you do care about others. However, there are times and situations where our actions say more about our character than words can convey. For me, this is one of those times.