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Old 04-21-2021, 10:56 PM   #303
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Originally Posted by Dadhawk View Post
Sorry, its not the same until the "driver" of the car is treated equally and takes responsibility for its mistakes. Tesla isn't doing that, and it skirts it by saying "here hold this button down so you have liability and we don't". And yes, that is different the monitoring done by other self driving systems. I know we see that different, so we won't be convincing each other otherwise, and that's OK. We can still be forum friends.

BTW, when I said GPS was accurate to within a few dozen feet, I meant accurate within about a dozen feet. My error, oh and I take responsibility for it
That is where I will have to agree to disagree, where I side with Tesla and with their agreement-of-use clause. People are free to use their product or service within the limits of its abilities in any given situation and must maintain control when operating their product. Fail to do wither then it is on the user.

I think it is a case by case scenario. As someone who works in the ER and who’s brother is an officer, we have many stories of people trying to shift the blame off of themselves. When it comes to the Summon feature, if someone doesn’t want to assume responsibility then they don’t have to use the feature or pay for the feature. If someone can demonstrate that Tesla was in the wrong like the car rapidly accelerated beyond the ability of their reaction time when they were being attentive then that is on Tesla. Tesla may not volunteer to say they were in the wrong unless they have the black box data that proves it. That is when the insurance company can choose to pursue Tesla or not, and it is where a person can demonstrate to their insurance that Tesla was in the wrong. Like a dispute between two drivers who hit each other, the insurance will still cover repairs, and then find fault to see if they will raise or maintain the insurer’s premiums, and finally, they will determine if it is worth it for them to pursue the other party—Tesla in this case.

I’m sure Tesla is not unique in their terms-of-use statement. With several more companies expanding their autonomous capabilities, we will see if these issues extend to them as well.
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