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Old 04-20-2021, 03:37 PM   #283
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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 View Post
I feel like in any other context, we would say these idiots, who are driving drunk or car surfing or whatever, win the Darwin Award, and if their idiocy caused collateral damage, injuries or deaths then we would say it is a shame these idiots exist, but we wouldn't blame Ford or Toyota. The comments made about Tesla comes off as special pleading.
I am saying that about the consumers using this, but I also feel Tesla is more to blame. Your own example of them releasing "beta" code to be used in a public setting, even to a limited number of users, puts them at least partially at fault here.

I go back to my example about summon mode. Do you think Tesla is willing to accept blame if that inadvertently runs over an infant, or even a stray black cat laying on the black tarmac who somehow doesn't get picked up by the sensors, or is the fault of the car owner? At that point, Tesla is driving the car.

As far as the tweet, yes, I agree it's Tesla's responsibility to protect their user's data. I also think it is a perfect example of how Musk is using the situation for his own purposes, rather than addressing the concern. So, if the car wasn't on Autopilot, did the phantom driver just leave the car? Did Autopilot turn itself off right before the accident so technically yea, it wasn't own when it hit the tree but is was on 5 seconds before?

Show me another manufacturer that is having these same issues with a similar type system and I'll agree, yea, they are being irresponsible. Like it or not Tesla, and Musk, are being irresponsible at this point, IMO.
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