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Old 04-20-2021, 02:32 PM   #280
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Originally Posted by Dadhawk View Post
Not sure I'm understanding this sentence, but I have nothing specifically against Tesla other than I don't agree with a lot of their business practices. There are other businesses that I don't like their practices either, and for the most part I don't do business with them.

The article you quoted even plays to that a bit. Rather than talking to the authorities and trying to help with the ongoing investigation, which would help with public safety, etc, Musk just tweets "Yea, ain't our problem".

I also think this says a lot from the article "Saturday's incident is the 28th Tesla crash to be investigated by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Autopilot has played a role in more than 20 of these Tesla crashes, Reuters reported in March."
Special pleading can be when someone makes an argument that applies to many, except to someone/something, or the opposite, where they don't apply a rule, except to someone/something. In this case, it seems that people aren't logically consistent across the industry. Either they are holding manufactures who provide driver aids to a higher standard than those that omit them, or they are calling out Tesla for inaction in providing safety to the public and the drivers/passengers of their cars, but not other manufactures for their inaction in providing safety. Thus, I was saying that I can safely assume that you are being logically consistent and are also just as disgruntled at other manufactures for their shortcomings.

I feel like in any other context, we would say these idiots, who are driving drunk or car surfing or whatever, win the Darwin Award, and if their idiocy caused collateral damage, injuries or deaths then we would say it is a shame these idiots exist, but we wouldn't blame Ford or Toyota. The comments made about Tesla comes off as special pleading.

Tesla might not volunteer to release private information to the authorities, but they may comply with a warrant. Would you want car manufactures to voluntarily, or upon request, give authorities video surveillance or vehicle information of you driving? That doesn't immediately make you cringe thinking about the violations of your 4th Amendment rights against unreasonable searches and seizures? Reminds me of Apple and the FBI:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/16/roge...s-for-doj.html
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