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Originally Posted by soundman98

and that is exactly why i hate tesla. "Full Self Driving"

my nickname is now "Monster Penis". i don't understand why all the ladies look let down when they finally see it.

I think it is important to clarify what are the different levels autonomy. When considering the levels below, imagine what the vehicles will likely look like. For instance, full autonomy is likely a ways away, and it will likely be for taxis or for cars that resemble taxis. They won’t have steering wheels or pedals. They might have unconventional layouts to cars today that focus on entertainment and productivity like a family room or office on wheels, respectively. There will be no “driving”. Level 4 autonomy will be exactly like level 5 vehicles, but can only operate like level 5 vehicles in cities at limited speeds and in limited zones as shuttles, taxis or whatever. Maybe level 4 vehicles will exist on standard cars for cities like owning a personal taxis, and then the driver can take over for when they leave the geofenced area—the city and then they become the driver and assume a more level 3 autonomy. Level 3 will be the highest level of driver aids that still require a driver all the time.

In this sense, level 3 autonomy is full driving assistance autonomy. Level 4 and 5 autonomy is the car being autonomous of a driver where there is no driver in the driver’s seat, or there is no driver’s seat. The real name should be Full Driver Assistance mode or something. Maybe that was already copyrighted.

Again, I’ll restate: Full Autonomy or Full Automation or Level 5 Autonomy will not have a driver or likely have any driver’s controls or driver’s seat. The name Full Self-Driving really doesn’t have much meaning on its own in a literal way or trying to interpret its meaning: is full self-driving referring to the driver as self or the car as self? Is Full Self-Driving short for Full Assistance Package for Self-Driving, referencing a human driver, versus the Partial/Full Car Autonomy, which is free from a driver?

If Autopilot is level 2 and the jump to 3 is so much more and is the maximum assistance a driver can have then what should they call it? Maybe they should have used the word complete or total or absolute or maximum along with Autopilot instead of Full and something else. I don’t think it really matters. It seems what is more important is the government needs to create a standard, instead of the states like the article mentions, and idiots will still be idiots, but there should be a public campaign or educational requirement when purchasing a car with such features or have unique penalties for abusing the systems or something universal, so people don’t continue special pleading.

Level 3 (Conditional Driving Automation)

The jump from Level 2 to Level 3 is substantial from a technological perspective, but subtle if not negligible from a human perspective.

Level 3 vehicles have “environmental detection” capabilities and can make informed decisions for themselves, such as accelerating past a slow-moving vehicle. But―they still require human override. The driver must remain alert and ready to take control if the system is unable to execute the task.

Almost two years ago, Audi (Volkswagen) announced that the next generation of the A8―their flagship sedan―would be the world’s first production Level 3 vehicle. And they delivered. The 2019 Audi A8L arrives in commercial dealerships this Fall. It features Traffic Jam Pilot, which combines a lidar scanner with advanced sensor fusion and processing power (plus built-in redundancies should a component fail).

However, while Audi was developing their marvel of engineering, the regulatory process in the U.S. shifted from federal guidance to state-by-state mandates for autonomous vehicles. So for the time being, the A8L is still classified as a Level 2 vehicle in the United States and will ship without key hardware and software required to achieve Level 3 functionality. In Europe, however, Audi will roll out the full Level 3 A8L with Traffic Jam Pilot (in Germany first).

Level 4 (High Driving Automation)

The key difference between Level 3 and Level 4 automation is that Level 4 vehicles can intervene if things go wrong or there is a system failure. In this sense, these cars do not require human interaction in most circumstances. However, a human still has the option to manually override.

Level 4 vehicles can operate in self-driving mode. But until legislation and infrastructure evolves, they can only do so within a limited area (usually an urban environment where top speeds reach an average of 30mph). This is known as geofencing. As such, most Level 4 vehicles in existence are geared toward ridesharing. For examplesee link)

Level 5 (Full Driving Automation)

Level 5 vehicles do not require human attention―the “dynamic driving task” is eliminated. Level 5 cars won’t even have steering wheels or acceleration/braking pedals. They will be free from geofencing, able to go anywhere and do anything that an experienced human driver can do. Fully autonomous cars are undergoing testing in several pockets of the world, but none are yet available to the general public.

https://www.synopsys.com/automotive/...ng-levels.html