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Originally Posted by Spuds
That's what a straw man is. He is taking the argument as to whether it is appropriate to kill animals for food and completely changing the context to something that is easier for him to justify his position. It isn't an analogy to explain something in layman's terms, he is actively using the new context to try to convince people his earlier, and only tenuously related, statement is sound. It is not a cultural thing. It is simply about the diet of humans.
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Again, he is trying to show intellectual consistency. Suffering is suffering no matter whether that happens to an animal or to a human. Humans may process intent or betrayal or other emotions, but the pain and torture is the same. Do you think a starving human feels that pain different than a starving animal? Do you think a suffocating human feels that pain different than a suffocating animal? If you do then you are sorely mistaken.
The videos I showed clearly depict animals that are suffering. You can't get around that fact. There is nothing to suggest this is necessary for our diets, but this is the byproduct of industrial meat production. The best someone could do if they weren't vegan is to try to source their meat and dairy from organic farms that provide adequate space for their animals, letting them grow/develop naturally and in humane conditions. Do you know you are doing that? It is either that or hunting.
Regardless, the scale of industrial meat production requires massively more use of land and water for feed than would be used to just feed humans directly. This destroys the planet, and it leads to increases in methane production and CO2 production. Meaning, by eating meat, those people are part of the problem, and moreover, they are doing so under the false pretense that it is necessary when it is not or that animal cruelty doesn't matter when it does.