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Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding
There you go again - tossing the "f" word around casually. You made a claim about studies demonstrating the inefficacy of masks. I asked you for a citation to those studies you claimed supported that assertion. You have not provided any. Instead, you mount an ad hominem based on a claim of my fear.
I ran into an example of this BS last night. I went to a meeting of my gun club. The room was about 50% full. I sat in the back with a few (dispersed) others. The guy running the meeting said something like, "You guys in the back move up front into some of these empty seat." I replied that, "we're social distancing." He said, "well, if you're afraid you can sit over on the side.' My response was, "it's not a function of fear, it's that situations like this are an IQ test."
I don't fear you or others. I'm pushing 70 - a LOT of things and a few people have tried unsuccessfully to kill me. I'm quite satisfied with it. If it all ends in 5 minutes, I have absolutely no complaints. You and others with your attitude, don't scare me, you just piss me off. You spew rubbish masquerading as "fact." I find your and their behavior anti-social. Not according to my ideals, but in the context of the reality we confront and the conclusions of people who know a lot more about that reality than either of us.
I care about this because I have this fleeting hope that someday our species will come to its senses and realize the only thing that can save us, from us, (collectively) IS us. And yet, we continue to be beset by roving gangs of bullshit artists who seem intent on bringing the "age of men" to a close. Why is it so difficult for you and the "others" you refer to to comprehend that other human beings can be motivated by anything but selfishness? That may be what keeps you going, but some folks care about things bigger than their selfish wants.
You claim to weigh the data. OK. Provide the citations I asked you for to the studies that demonstrate the inefficacy of masking.
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Listen old angry guy, from another old, but un-angry guy, you said, and I quote:
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Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding
But that's not what anyone is tryng to do, now is it? As I requested of Opie, show me a citation to some credible source that supports your fear. Then, let's discuss it.
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You asked for a citation that supports my fear, a fear I don't have.
You are so fearful over this virus that you research only one point of view to strengthen your views while closing your mind to any differing possibilities. You want citations, stop posting your useless babble here and go find them yourself. You want everyone else to meet
YOUR expectations of defense against this virus, your gun club, other members here, innocent bystanders at your local store. You want them to alter their actions to SUIT YOU. Talk about selfishness. Your reality is not mine. When I am advised TO NOT take a vaccine by the experts and professionals that monitor MY health, I listen. Then all the idiots on the internet tell me I'm wrong for doing what medical experts have recommended to me, Now I'm called a conspiracy theorist, an anti-vaxxer, a Maskhole just to try and peer pressure me to GO AGAINST THE MEDICAL ADVICE I HAVE BEEN GIVEN? And regarding the effectiveness of masks vs the virus, I posted one of the opposing studies previously, but as normal, you are to busy yelling your points from the rooftop to stop and see it. Keep throwing your intended insults and labels out, you aren't changing my mind, you are just demonstrating how you want to spread your misery to others.