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Originally Posted by Opie
Show me where I said any of those things. I'll wait.
And I don't smoke...never had, and have previously had all necessary, standard vaccines. I don't get the flu vaccine because of a severe reaction to it previously...and I hardly ever get sick.
Stop sounding like a pompous authority on my health.
What made this worse wasn't ignorance by a previous administration. It was, and is because of the constant, incoherent changing of information by our so-called expert on infectious diseases that has back tracked, changed direction and contradicted himself so many times no one know who to trust. Less intrusive approaches to virus prevention were adopted by other areas and had similar, if not better, infection rates.
The science says the virus is survivable by 99.x% of the population, and current reports from the CDC say the Covid vaccine appears to be safe for 99.x% of the population. I have an equal chance of dying from either.
See the data yourself on deaths related to Covid vaccines since January 2021 here.
Source: https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html |
Which part? I’ll wait.
No. Experts were ignored. What country did less and had less problems? We have examples from 50 states with different population densities and different policies and different outcomes per capita, so we have examples of what worked and didn’t work well. Of course, we have some hindsight bias going on, but clearly, the former administration’s general approach to downplaying the severity was problematic, which it later admitted it did, so that point isn’t even contested by them making it odd that it is contested by you.
Your assessment of the numbers is poor. The number depends on age, genetics, prior health conditions, exposure rate, strains exposed to, etc. If we are just looking at statistics, how many people have died from the vaccine? Either they had an anaphylactic reaction or developed cancer or anything. At best there might be highly frail individuals who elect to take the vaccine who might compromise their immune system temporarily enough to open themselves up to pneumonia or something, but I am unaware of a prevalence of this. The numbers on prevalence of deaths for COVID vary by area, but the current metric in NYC is 49,648 deaths out of 8.4 million people, so 0.5897% of society has died there, and 99.41% are still alive, so it doesn’t sound bad, but said another way, that is 1 in 170 people in NYC has died of COVID. Maybe that doesn’t sound bad to you, but it is bad. If we consider just those over 65 then the mortality rate was closer to 1 in 75 or something; it’s been a while since I checked so it might be lower now. The exposure is not 100%, so this rate will only get worse. If we had done nothing then the mortality would have included victims of an impacted healthcare system besides those who got COVID, but it would still be
just millions or
just a small percentage of society. Meanwhile, the vaccine isn’t killing hundreds of thousands of people in the US or millions in the world like COVID, so I don’t know how you can compare the two and conclude the vaccine is just or more dangerous to you or others you could infect.