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Threads like this always make me laugh, due to there being 1 "unknown 370" and a objective look on the situation for every 60 "*Insert random pro of this car in comparison to another car which is aimed at a different demographic as if it was some nail in the coffin*"
With a huge sprinkling of Google-expert know-how on a subject they haven't discussed with anyone or dealt with issues involving said subject outside of a forum.
1: This cars small and fun to drive...It comes with a huge helping of cons. Most of you are either going to be blind to them because this car is gods gift to you and your Bro's, or going to deflect/spin them trying to dispute their relative importance based solely on a hypothetical buyer and his/her specific needs stating them as your own.
2: This car makes sense to people who find a Scion TC just too "sensible" but not fun enough, or people who want a Miata but don't want the stimga associated with it and a bit MORE practicality....That's really about it, everyone else isn't going to be making this their Excalibur of the asphault. It'll be their enjoyable car and not much more because that's about all this was intended to be. If you're NOT one of those people you're looking into the wrong car, get off the bandwagon stop blabbering because it really takes away from all the well thought out and informative posts here.
3. I'm hoping this car pulls the wool back from AT-LEAST a few peoples eyes as to the "credibility" of a journalists review on a vehicle. Because frankly Chris Harris or any other guy with a MacBook and magazine column are giving you about 1/10th of the story that is "This car". In the RATIONAL world, owning a car for 24 hours gives you as much right/credibility to give opinions on this car as a tourist passing through has to describe/understand and most of all "Rank" your Town/City/State..
For instance...
12 people driving this car around a race course 3 times telling you how much better this car "feels in the corner" and how much more "crisp the response is" Is hair spray to a flame...
It doesn't tell you that from an engineering standpoint a majority of the suspension components were engineered without enough finite element analysis resulting in a low safety factor. One example of such "poor engineering" was the front lower control arms. The car was designed with weight saving paramount, this resulting in very thin stamped parts in the suspension. Which is why when the member was installing LCA's he could deform the part using his own strength, which means installing poly or heaven forbid delrin bushings you are (not might..You ARE) going to tear your control arm unless it's replaced with a solid more rigid unit. I can promise you it's not going to be limited to LCA's chances are a plethora of problems will arise underneath the car if stiff bushings are installed throughout without reinforcement.
It doesn't let you know that the dealer will shaft you in xx-xxx miles because the maintenance at that point calls for the engine to be lifted for service..
It doesn't tell you that you could have one of the cars that shutters when it idles and makes a noise etc etc.
All of those "variables" that are factors of a consumer product and NOT "binned" model making the rounds for testing.
I am personally still not sold on this car, but I have been developing a growing fondess with it every time i drive around my pals, but there is going to be a ceiling/wall in this car that's going to be hit very soon into tuning and very costly to break through, and the last thing I want to do with a new car is replace it's engine....
The Z is "comparatively" boring but it's NOT a boring car...I don't see how people can compare this cars heads up because that's dumb but the dealership price spikes are bringing costs dangerously close...But really the Z is as awesome as this car hands down...you pick either you won't be the "loser" it's just 2 diff sides to the same coin.
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