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Old 02-19-2021, 02:56 PM   #33
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[QUOTE=Irace86.2.0;3407771]#1: My point is the OP is overthinking this a bit.
#2: That 2007 WRC rally car has a FMIC with a top mount air intake, but that doesn’t really matter because the point of the picture was to illustrate that the bumper doesn’t get peppered with mud like the sides that are behind the wheels. I could have used an Evo or something too where the FMIC is plainly visible, low and exposed.



The comment about overcooling was missed on you. The point wasn’t to say overcooling is a reason to put the oil cooler in front of the intercooler; it was to suggest that there is enough cooling available with the given area, so much so, that restricted air flow was sometimes preferable.

Remove overcooling from the vocabulary because I already conceded that idea had little merit. What loses to the cooling effect of the intercooler, or what losses to horsepower could be seen from putting an oil cooler in front of the intercooler, because the premise of this thread is that dirty (warmed) air will leave the oil cooler and hit the intercooler, apparently, significantly reducing the effectiveness of the intercooler?

Here is a HKS side mount intercooler. It requires longer oil lines, and it doesn’t get the airflow that a front mount oil cooler would get. It also blocks a good place for brake ducting, but it could be used. Some would say, “That’s...not great airflow.” All I’m trying to say is people shouldn’t create a bigger problem trying to fix a perceived problem that is more significant subjectively than it is objectively and that could in fact be worse.

For starters, I dont know/care where this whole rally inspired stuff is coming from but i never said shit about mud or bumpers or anything, but aside from the evo im not too sure of many factory turbo cars where they didnt have a thought out design for cooling elements.. Heres the deal, as i see it. There no harm in a thought out design. nothing wrong with off the shelf. If you're a buy it an slap it on type person, go for it.

Option one, a 'modestly' sized intercooler (think the size of the 300ZX or some of the BMW side mounts) so that you could mount both out front side by side and possibly have a shred of radiator exposed.

Option two, stack them all up in the front and live your best life.

With a side mount intercooler or oil cooler, yes its all about air flow and plumbing clearances. I see you posted a picture that seems to speak to the small size of the factory hole/opening near the fog light.... SO WHAT, new bumper, cut/fab/bondo the existing... there are options.. I dont give a shit about maintaining the factory 'look' of the bumper. I think its called "function over form"
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