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Originally Posted by Dadhawk
I get that, but I just can't get behind someone being offended because, not knowing them, I used the wrong
pronoun, in a method I've been using it for 60+ years. If you correct me, OK, I get it now, sorry. I'm also not going to ask you up front your preference. It isn't my responsibility to do so.
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I agree. Most trans people agree. I get the Jordan Peterson's argument against government mandating people use people's preferred pronouns, but I also get the argument that people are being malicious when they refuse to at minimum conform to social norms, which is to call people by what they look like until you are corrected. If I decided to use female pronouns on you all the time, while at work, etc you would probably feel like I was harassing you, so I see that side of things. I've seen conversations where someone who is against a trans person stumble to use the pronoun they want to use like this father on Dr Phil who was against his son transitioning to female used male pronouns, but often used female pronouns by accident or convention like it was clear he was struggling to remember to use male pronouns, so this just shows his prejudice more than some inconvenience to remember to use female pronouns.
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Originally Posted by Dadhawk
As far as rest rooms, they should all just be designed co-ed. Heck, most the time I go to a concert or a big sporting event the Men's rooms are co-ed anyway with women sneaking in to avoid the lines at theirs. It doesn't bother me, and frankly shouldn't bother anyone else.
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I agree. I really don't care.
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Originally Posted by Dadhawk
Now let me use a single stall Women's room at a restaurant or store and watch the dirty looks I get, even though its one person at a time. Makes no sense.
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Well, men are labeled sexual perverts more than women, and men leave up the seat, and men pee on the seat, and oh, men drop giant deuces and stink up the bathroom, and men don't wash their hands, and men leave the counters and the paper towel rack and floor a mess, but also, I bet it is because women are typically more bathroom constrained than men like you mentioned above.