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Compelica · 10-31-2020, 01:09 PM

I got the Dayton PS95-8s a while back and I finally had some time to do a test fit. It came in a compact box, nicely packed with a plastic cover on the delicates. Overall the build quality was great which was certainly promising.

So I got to removing the passenger speaker grill, disconnected the tweeter, jumped the connections and fit my own speaker harness to the Dayton for an A-B test.

Dropping the speaker into the space - the first thing that happened was that it couldn't fit. @soundman98 I saw an image of your Daytons posted somewhere which the speaker basket ring would rest on the plastic dashboard frame; on mine, the speaker magnet bottomed out on the air-conditioning duct right under the speaker placement - uh oh.

At the very least, I could still test out the speaker. I placed it in the space, reseated the grill and went on with the test.

The sub was turned off, crossovers set up to remove as much output from the door speakers, and turned off DTA and EQ (dropped off all EQ below 100Hz, rest left to flat). Now I'm no pro in explaining audio terms but I'll try as best as I can.

The overall experience was actually poorer than the stock speakers. For some reason the overall output was OK, however there was a lack of punch from the low frequencies that it was intended to play, without a separate distinction of the instruments and voices. The latter was obviously due to that it was a coax; but all of a sudden it felt so odd as if I've lost the stage.

My first test track was Kina Grannis' Can't Help Falling in Love - and in a similar way, I couldn't help (pun intended) but feel that her voice wasn't isolated; it didn't sound clean and closer to being life-like. The guitar plucks, too did not emerge separately, which everything sounded as if it was played thru a single output (yeah well duh, coax).

Next track was Fleetwood Mac's Everywhere - and it was the same. Everything was muddled, from the percussion to the guitars when faded to the Dayton but played with more clarity and isolation on the stock speakers.

Baffling, but maybe I should have seen it coming. I wasn't sure of what improvements to expect in the first place but somehow it couldn't improve anything better to my ears subjectively. Maybe I should toy a bit more with the crossovers but there's probably nothing I can do to widen the stage.

@soundman98 I appreciate the advice given previously, I'm just not sure on why it couldn't mount like how yours did. My bad for not doing a measurement in the first place, but with the amount of modifications that I need to do to get it to fit - it's probably not worth it.

10-31-2020, 01:09 PM	#64
Compelica Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Drives: 86 GT Location: Malaysia Posts: 397 Thanks: 262 Thanked 229 Times in 119 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I got the Dayton PS95-8s a while back and I finally had some time to do a test fit. It came in a compact box, nicely packed with a plastic cover on the delicates. Overall the build quality was great which was certainly promising. So I got to removing the passenger speaker grill, disconnected the tweeter, jumped the connections and fit my own speaker harness to the Dayton for an A-B test. Dropping the speaker into the space - the first thing that happened was that it couldn't fit. @soundman98 I saw an image of your Daytons posted somewhere which the speaker basket ring would rest on the plastic dashboard frame; on mine, the speaker magnet bottomed out on the air-conditioning duct right under the speaker placement - uh oh. At the very least, I could still test out the speaker. I placed it in the space, reseated the grill and went on with the test. The sub was turned off, crossovers set up to remove as much output from the door speakers, and turned off DTA and EQ (dropped off all EQ below 100Hz, rest left to flat). Now I'm no pro in explaining audio terms but I'll try as best as I can. The overall experience was actually poorer than the stock speakers. For some reason the overall output was OK, however there was a lack of punch from the low frequencies that it was intended to play, without a separate distinction of the instruments and voices. The latter was obviously due to that it was a coax; but all of a sudden it felt so odd as if I've lost the stage. My first test track was Kina Grannis' Can't Help Falling in Love - and in a similar way, I couldn't help (pun intended) but feel that her voice wasn't isolated; it didn't sound clean and closer to being life-like. The guitar plucks, too did not emerge separately, which everything sounded as if it was played thru a single output (yeah well duh, coax). Next track was Fleetwood Mac's Everywhere - and it was the same. Everything was muddled, from the percussion to the guitars when faded to the Dayton but played with more clarity and isolation on the stock speakers. Baffling, but maybe I should have seen it coming. I wasn't sure of what improvements to expect in the first place but somehow it couldn't improve anything better to my ears subjectively. Maybe I should toy a bit more with the crossovers but there's probably nothing I can do to widen the stage. @soundman98 I appreciate the advice given previously, I'm just not sure on why it couldn't mount like how yours did. My bad for not doing a measurement in the first place, but with the amount of modifications that I need to do to get it to fit - it's probably not worth it.