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Originally Posted by Zaku

Exactly, honestly if I remember correctly with acception to a very few percentage of people looking to purchase this car as a Toyota. The lotus owners and older members

Most Seem to be against the 25K+ marks that they would have to pay if it was a Toyota. I hate it when people forget and whine about things they can't afford. Most people looking to purchase this are college graduated fresh out with out a job. That are waiting to purchase their first or second cars.

I guess to put it bluntly

Bish why you whining, not like you can even afford it when it comes out.

and like no offense or anything but like take a look at the reality of things. The harsh reality. This being a Scion might be your only chance of getting a good RWD car to play with, before moving up to the big leagues. Your going to want your extra earned money to do other things. Toyota is hitting things right on the spot from a marketing perspective.

a Cheap RWD sports car. last time I check Toyota sports anything wasn't Cheap and we're talking today market. Don't bring figures from before the Econ crash. If a 2001 Celica was released in today market it be 25K plus. Supra would be GTR pricing level.

20K Scion? F yeah if it does what it's suppose to do. I'm in it for the car, not the badge not the heritage. If I wanted Heritage I buy a Porsche.

I'm totally cool with this being a Scion

and who ever made a comment about people being ok with this as Civic Driver and TC driver. Wtf? is wrong with a Civic? it's a good car.

Now people are offended when I said no offend.