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Originally Posted by Tcoat
Let's clarify some points on the valve springs.
The cars were recalled after most were already out of warranty due to miles or time. If anything except a spring broke they would not have been covered anyway.
The recall does not have an expiry date so if you broke a valve spring even years later THAT part of the repair and associated damage would have been covered under the recall warranty. The only place forced into the work was California so everybody else could have just left things alone and had repairs done if they actually broke a spring. I know of 2 people reporting broken springs on here and one of them had a story that was dubious at best.
The failures after the repairs were most certainly caused by bad application of the sealant, that is indisputable.
The number of people that were affected however is debatable.
There was a sheet here that showed about 60 people that had failures. For the sake of argument let's say the total was someplace around 10 times that number as that would seem realistic.
The majority of the people reporting here did indeed have the dealership take responsibility and have the repairs done at no cost. It was a relatively small number that had dealerships decline the repairs.
The class action suit that so many screamed for has a grand total of 6 (yes, six) names on it so the numbers are not near as bad as reading all the posts would seem. It is a classic case of hearing the bad news over and over until it seems like that was all there was when reality showed that the good news stories were actually more common. People with no problems rarely scream it around the internet.
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Really good insight thank you! I still feel bad for the early adopters that had to deal with it. I would be upset if my car needed the engine removed at such low miles. Although it sounds like most people didn’t get the TSB until after the factory warranty was up. I remember several threads about strange fault codes popping up, related to cam timing? I’m not sure if that was connected to the valve spring issue. It seemed like a very frustrating time for twin owners. I do think you made an awesome point that it feels like it was worse than it was, because it’s been discussed so much on here. The number of people affected was (hopefully) small. I still think Toyota and Subaru should have stepped up more to make it right for those affected. Especially the people who had engine failures from dealership work. That is insane. I wouldn’t want to keep my car long term in that situation, and you would have to fight with insurance over diminished value. Not fun.
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