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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise
I bought one of the first 2013 models back in 2012. Actually it's been 8 years to the day! Still love the car. List of issues I've had:
1. Idle CEL issue @ new.
Free warranty fix, reflash.
2. Transient ignition retard reflash @ 1.5y/11k miles.
Free TSB fix, reflash. I had this TSB applied preemptively. Was the right call as I've heard some folks who didn't get this done had DI seal issues as a result.
3. Coil pack @ 3y/20k miles.
Replaced myself. Not really Toyota's fault (almost certainly caused by heat from track and aftermarket header) so I didn't use the warranty. Had a second coil pack go as well, again likely from track use. I believe the coil packs and wiring harness were redesigned to be more robust in 2015.
4. Oil leak from cam cover plate @ 5y/27k miles.
Replaced myself with Raceseng plate. No problems since. Could have gone warranty route but I wanted a better designed part.
5. J02 Valve Spring Recall @ 7y/32k miles.
Recall fix. The 800 pound gorilla.
6. TOB issue @ 8y/36k miles.
Replaced with revised TOB. Installed stage 1 clutch/LWFW while trans was out.
I don't mind any of those issues, especially for a first year car, other than the J02 valve spring recall. That one put owners in a bad spot because if you didn't get the recall done, Toyota/Subaru were essentially telling you the engine might fail catastrophically. But if you did get it done, it was known that some techs were incorrectly applying sealant during the repair causing oil starvation and again, catastrophic engine failure. If your engine was sealed properly no problems, but if not, it was essentially a ticking time-bomb and not guaranteed that Toyota/Subaru would pick up the tab.
I think I'm in the clear on that one with 6000 post-recall miles (and plenty of canyon and track time), but it was not a good spot to be placed into. I feel bad for the owners who had the recall done and had their engines fail with Toyota/Subaru denying coverage.
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This is a ton of good info on a very early build twin. [emoji106] And big props to you for replacing some things on your own because you knew you were putting your car through some extra stress. That to me is exactly what an owner of a sports car should expect to do. [emoji106][emoji106]
The way you talked about the J02 recall makes me think a little differently about it. You are exactly right, it put owners in that VIN range in an extremely difficult position. Don’t get it done, and if you had any engine related issues, it likely wouldn’t be covered by warranty. Get it done, and you ran the risk of something going wrong because of sloppy work. I know some guys/gals had their engine die from oil starvation after the recall was done. That is completely unacceptable, and Toyota/Subaru should have stepped up and taken care of those people. Even if it meant putting them in a newer model year car. I miss the days of real customer service and care. What would Lexus do in that situation? Most likely bend over backwards to help the customer. Toyota should do the same. It’s almost like a bunch of people were punished for supporting this car from the very beginning.
Your attitude about all of it is awesome, seriously. I can tell you love the car’s merits enough to move past all of those issues. And most of the issues weren’t anything too bad at all. The valve spring recall fiasco is the one big blemish on the early twins. From what I understand it was due to faulty parts provided to Toyota and Subaru, but they should have taken care of their customers better.
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