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Here's a copy & paste I found on Facebook. Hopefully it'll help you out.
Friendly debate/rant/review all of thee above based on some messages I get from friends when seeking turbo tuning advice(perfect for all the new kits going out).
BLUF(‘bottom line up front’ for the non-military folk(smart people): You CAN safely enjoy your new turbo kit for $245 and an OFT(no you don’t need E85)
I’m going to try to keep it short but there’s so much lol. All too often we hear something along the lines of “OFT, trash...EcuTek is the wtg etc.” Product for product, clearly you get what you pay for. My issue is there seems to be a misconception that you can’t obtain a decent turbo tune from the OFT team and that’s false.
Myth busting 101, exhibit A. Dyno: A whomping 230whp @7psi(wastegate only + bleeder valve) 93 Octane 100* degrees peak mid-day in Texas. I dyno’d at the absolute worst part of the day for a reason. Clearly it’s extremely conservative tune hence the timing and AFR on the richer side(see datalog). With the compression in these vehicles it does not take much boost for things to get wicked, fast. It is not hard to tune these vehicles to the point of known mechanical failures before a “which tuner should I use,” conversation even begins to take place. Hell, let’s take it two steps back & talk proper vehicle maintenance, perhaps?!
Shiv took the time to put together a base turbo tune with a speed density base function under WOT, over-boost protection feature & still uses your MAF for part throttle cruising, delivering exception MPG. Honestly, 230whp is fun & I did eventually turn it up a bit to the recommended 10psi but I wasn’t exactly in a hurry to roast the clutch.
That aside, the EcuTek is the superior tuning product. Is it necessary for boosted applications? No. I hate to break to you but with all that fancy technology there it’s ABSOLUTELY no way anyone tuned on EcuTek maps should have to pay more than a $100 for a license with an authorized dealer/tuner then the $300-$600 for the dyno and/or street tune. Period. To say someone has to spend $6-700 for software/hardware just to GO GET TUNED is crazy, sorry not sorry. Especially if you aren’t a tuner & don’t plan to be. I tuned ample vehicles with my 1 HPTuners cable(in 2007!) & all they paid for was the license($99) for their vehicle + my fees/time/tuning. You all have to rid that for the future, seriously(if I’m mistaken please lmk). I don’t mind spending $500+ with the right tuner on a dyno. Unless you’re an actual tuner there is no reason to own/operate the software/cable that’s why you pay the tuner in the first place & they lock the tune anyway! Let’s think about that for a sec....
Now, OFT.......the product works! With that being said if I could give a F+ for the customer service experience they’d be prime candidates until I drove the car!�� This e-tuning process blows, requires some extra DIY’er genes in you along with a TON of patience and/or discipline(see parenting and/or supervising books). The amount of times I want to throw the tablet out the window based on the damn intermittent cable shutting the unit off alone should be a crime! Loading a tune, flashing a tune, logging a tune....then...wait for it....RESET the process! It is not for the faint of heart. Happiness is purely based on your reality vs expectations, expect some suck in this process.
When you recommend Bill & the guys at Delicious Tuning, recommend them SOLELY based on what they’re exceptional at & that is providing that SUPERB customer service along with their immense tuning capabilities. They make EcuTek look good. I met him when he flew out here to personally dial in a buddy’s vehicle & there is DEFINITELY a reason they have the rep they do, hands down.
If you’re the type to pay someone to install your turbo kit; 100% go EcuTEK/Delicious Tuning to limit the headaches & wait time. If you got bills, kids, a mortgage with an OFT tablet already in hand...Shiv + a good book + your liquor of choice�� 10 out of 10 times! Yes, Shiv knows what the heck he is doing, yes he’s a busy man but I believe in calling it like it is. He’s a proven tuner & really doesn’t get enough credit amongst our community. Think about it, how many legit tuners do we really have?! Name (5)....Does he need to hire some extra assistants? Possibly. But the OFT tablet can get it done ladies & gentleman. I personally am not about to spend another $1000 for 300whp on a stock block when I need to be building a spare(or acquire an FA24 bottom end��).
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