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Old 05-24-2020, 08:02 PM   #15
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Disclaimer: I've been hired through OTA to time for Northern Speed events and did in fact work yesterday's race which ran incident free. Dov Arnoff from NV Auto who is also the track manager for TMP made sure of it. NV Auto is also a sponsor for Northern Speed.

Just to be clear, the guys who were the idiots at TMP on May 20th were NOT part of the Northern Star management team nor do they represent Northern Star.

They were simply some of the people who signed up for them. So I think it's unfair to say to avoid Northern Star because of these idiots who made track days look so horrible for the rest of us. This could be said for anyone part of CSCS or OTA doing dumb shit and then saying CSCS or OTA is bad. Just trying to be fair.
this is somewhat of the harley davidson problem though.

sure, these bad apples aren't part of management, or representatives for the track in any way. i think it's pretty clear by the comments so far that no one is trying to say that. but they exist there, and as the few comments are starting sway, many people are making the distinction to not visit that track specifically because of the culture that has taken up residence there. condoned, or not.

in the same way that HD is now significantly struggling because they marketed to a specific type of person that is now dying off, i can see the writing on the wall that allowing such behavior to continue with minimal repercussions by management makes the ownership technicalities all but insignificant. the track owners themselves might as well be doing all these damaging things. if a track starts getting reviews and word-of-mouth as the place that anything goes with minimal repercussions, the wrong types of people start showing up more and more.

whether or not management condones it on any official level, it will start to affect their bottom line as people mature and move away from that type of environment(no one likes constantly putting themselves or their equipment in a position to get their stuff screwed up by others on a consistent basis), not to mention, as track liabilities rise--all most insurance companies really need to raise rates is a whiff of something bad.

at the very least, they should be ejected from the track with no refund.
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