[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I didn't say it was bad value I said it was the worst option in the value chain. You yourself explained why. I was not speaking to quality.

I would buy the clean title car wit the assumption that they are the same quality. Mileage is the last consideration in my list. There are some great 100K cars and some beat to shit 10K ones.

But paying 30-40% less for something WORTH 30-40% less isn't a bad value *except* when insurance is concerned (you didn't bold that part ).

It depends on what you personally value. Do you value words on a title? Or do you value performance per $? Depending on that it either makes a well rebuilt vehicle more valuable TO YOU or it makes it worthless. In the true "rebuilt is shit" camp there is no such thing as a good rebuilt car

For my case, my red FRS hail damaged failed 2013 recall car is a *great value*. I get every bit of performance and enjoyment out of it for less than 6 grand. It's a 27K chassis. With a 40k engine. I couldn't touch a clean title version of that for less than 6k. That makes it an INSANE value for me. All in, with ACE shit, brakes, 2 way dampers, 3 sets of wheels, r comps, blah blah blah I'm maybe 11k into the thing at the moment. And when I smash it into a wall at the track.. WGAF...

I realize this is kind of a pointless conversation since I buy them wrecked and fix them myself and all........ my only point is that a rebuilt title doesn't represent bad value to ALL owners.. just those that need to pay full insurance costs for a car that the ins co pays out less for. But really, that's built into the purchase price so it shouldn't be a surprise. Still, over several years, that $ in ins premiums can eat into that. I get it - just expect it.

FWIW though I insured my 2015 BRZ at full value after insurance inspected it and previous damage. Granted I never made a claim but they recorded the cars condition and saw no reason to screw me. I did cancel comp/collision since the BRZ was about 2x as much to insure as my 650hp Camaro lol