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Old 05-11-2020, 01:53 PM   #2388
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Great interview. One thing is odd to me though. It seems like with the Supra 2.0t, Toyota was specifically targeting Twins owners who wanted more power from the factory. In other words, the "bridge" between the 86/BRZ and Supra 3.0t.

In that case, I think one area that Toyota completely missed the boat was by not offering a manual. I think the take rate for the MT with the Twins is pretty significant, probably close to 50% averaged between the two models. And it's probably close to 100% for the performance-oriented buyers (i.e., the ones that would likely want more power and might upgrade to the Supra 2.0T or 3.0T). From personal experience at the track, I've seen plenty of Twins and NONE were automatic. Zero.

So why didn't Toyota offer the 2.0T, the supposed performance bridge between the Twins and the Supra 3.0T, with a manual? I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn't even consider one due to the lack of a MT option. I can sort of understand for marketing purposes if they were chasing laptimes and 0-60/quarter times in the 3.0T and only wanted an automatic offered in that car, but in the 2.0T who cares?
i believe in one of his videos Guff said Toyota is now seriously considering a MT for the Supra. i imagine that poor sales, internet backlash, and pretty much every review video ends with something along these lines "the auto trans in the Supra is good, but we wish Toyota would still offer a MT for those that like to row the gears" is finally making Toyota reconsider.
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