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Originally Posted by Pouncer

Sigh. Leaving aside people who power their Teslas with rooftop solar, back in 2018, 32% of the electricity produced in California was renewable (+9% nuclear). There were times last year when we hit 59% generation from solar alone. State law requires 50% renewables by 2025, 60% by 2030, and 100% by 2045. All new homes are required to be net-zero energy use, along with all new commercial buildings starting in 2030, plus 50% of existing commercial buildings by 2030. Europe and other advanced countries are on a similar track. I won't even bother discussing the environmental damage caused by fracking.

Key word being produced IN California. California can't rely on themselves for power, a lot is brought in. And I wouldn't tote nuclear since the CA government is hell bent on shutting down all nuclear plants.

Please do bother discussing the damage from fracking, since most widely circulated information is BS. Then after that we could discuss how eco friendly the production of solar panels and Li batteries are

Originally Posted by ls1ac

Add one more thing to the mix. In the USA most of the wind and solar plants are very heavily subsidized From taxes we pay to the government. To add insult to injurie The road taxes collected from fuel is not applied to electric vehicles.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that wind and solar is heavily subsidized in every country. It's the only way its even possible - especially if you install components built in China (where they don't give a crap about how dirty the production process is...).