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Old 04-22-2020, 03:54 PM   #69
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Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz View Post
This a dyno from Delicious tuning. The only change was adding a MY17 header and intake manifold to a MY15. The car already had a drop in filter and intake tube...

These are avg runs I got from virtual dyno. Yeah I know virtual dyno, but its better than an opinion with no substance behind it right? Same stretch of road, full tank of E85, HKS catless header, Greddy snorkel scoop, drop in Blitz filter, Mishimoto intake tube, 2.75" overfront pipe, Perrin catback and SAE corrected for weather conditions of that day. The numbers aren't as important as the trend from the runs of course. When I graphed raw MAFv it came out just like below as well.

I don't feel a MY17 IM by its self is worth it past looks. However if you are willing to go a step farther it is certainly worth it.
A 2mm bored over OEM TB is only $160 via Maxbore. My IM was port matched to the TB exit of course. The expensive step is the extrude honing at $550+.
The MY17 definitely seems to be worth it albeit that hone job has a significant impact on the results.

I feel like your car/setup would be absolutely perfect for an intake shootout on a dyno. Call me crazy but I think that 10 whp will be found in an intake of some sort.

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 View Post
If I were trying to stretch this thing to make 220 whp I would buy the racerx manifold. With an aggressive tune you might get near 220 on a perfect day with proper planetary alignment but for a daily this is a fool's errand imo.
I would also consider a good header and catless system to be necessary.
For a $1000 the Racer X might not give the edge over the MY17 manifold in stock form, honestly. Price and performance wise.

I'd love for the actual company to take the time to post updated results(if they haven't already ie vs black manifold vs new MY17, maybe a video...its 2020). I mean, a big part of the price we pay is their R&D time and efforts, which I'm totally for. We just shouldn't be doing much "hoping and wishing" at a $1000. If it's aimed at F/I applications, cool.
Beautiful piece though.

I think we're getting to the point of more people having the capabilities to put this stuff to the test. Since we're on the topic of virtual dynos for what it's worth, this week's intake shenanigans with the dash command app/bluetooth OBD2.

1st 4th gear pull(left side) 72* outside 219hp/160tq @7280
TRD Intake(slightly modified; ie smoothed out inside)
GReddy Snorkel
Crawford BPB
Added timing up top to compensate

2nd 4th gear pull(right side) *89 outside 248hp/172tq @7456rpm
INJEN 3.5 SRI
Greddy Snorkel
Removed Powerblocks
Removed timing up top

I think I'm going to try again with the TRD intake and BPB's removed. I absolutely hate that 90* bend on intakes and that huge stepdown process of the INJENS from the 3.5" to 2.75" back up to 3"(hence why MAF was a pain but I have fuel trims at +- (0-2%). I'm going to dyno them all soon, making sure I have a tune scaled for each setup.


*EDIT* Did a re-run w/o the blocks on the TRD intake....much closer(second image)


TRD w/o BPB & optimized MAF scale - 244hp / 173tq

INJEN w/o BPB & optimized MAF scale - 252hp / 178tq


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