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Old 02-18-2020, 09:41 AM   #42
ROFL it's Waffle
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Originally Posted by Boccaccio View Post
"just a stage 1 reflash" can net you around 300+ at the crank and 450+ Nm of torque.

Basically the same engine. Just for illustration:

https://www.br-performance.be/en-be/...19/11487-320i/


The B48 engine responds quite well to tuning.
Porsche has been doing this all along to the Cayman to fit a little too perfectly between the Boxster and 911. There is no doubt in my mind that all car companies are de-tuning their mid-range models to sell the higher-range models, even if they're equipped with similar engines. I mean (back to the numbers game), 2020 Supra 6 is "330 hp" and all of a sudden 2021 Supra 6 is "385 hp." I mean the 86 is a fine example of that, going from 200 to 205 hp lol.

There are two types of car people though. People willing to mod, and people not willing to mod. Modders don't really fall for the marketing gimmicks. If the platform is strong, we're happy. I work with a guy who has a 2019 STI, and his vision of upgrading is getting the STI s209 version, which are now retailing around $65k.

I look at the s209 and think: it has $8k of tasteless aftermarket mods (a fugly trunk spoiler) on a $35k car, a water hose to spray onto the intercooler to reduce temps by 10°F , and a measly 345 hp. Tack on $22k for exclusivity (I mean really, that's what it is), and you have a "factory spec race car with a warranty."

$3000 worth of exhaust mods including a pro-tune can net you 345 hp without trying on an STI.

But I digress. There are benefits to not modding, like enjoying what the car was designed to do. Man I love cars.
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