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Old 12-23-2019, 08:34 AM   #88
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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 View Post
Similarly, people are putting millions of miles on Autopilot and only a few are abusing it or finding very odd situations where it fails, coupled with person neglect, so we should eliminate Autopilot. Never mind that Autopilot might be saving more lives than we know (how do we get data on that, except to compare Teslas with and without Autopilot, but that data is from Tesla so conspiracy?). Time will tell, or the government or judge will order Tesla to release their raw data. Then we will know for sure.
I agree that most cases of Autopilot "failure" is a result of a neglectful user. You could do the same with standard cruise control. Set the speed to 60 MPH then let your mind wander off until you run off the road or hit the car in front of you. Standard cruise control has no fail-safes, and L2 automation at least has some. In that way, I suppose autopilot is no worse and at least moves the safety needle a bit.

(I have this image of a teenage driver around 2040 getting into his Dad's "classic" 2013 FR-S and crashing it because he sets the cruise control and doesn't realize it doesn't control steering)

I agree with some that have said that part of the issue is the manufacturers all trying to spin what is the same thing. If they would standardize their language and just call it all the same, say "Level 2 Cruise Control" or some such most of my argument goes away. GM's "Super Cruise" is a better name (and to some extent a better technology IMO)
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