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Originally Posted by JesseG
Honda has never made any cars that crappy. Ever.
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lol are you forgetting about the 9th gen Civic? It got ranked behind the Elantra.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ratings-24705/
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In this test, Hyundai proves it can build an economy sedan that's greater than the sum of its parts — and beat Honda at the game it started.
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https://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/elan...ison-test.html
How about all the automatic transmissions that blew up in the 00's?
https://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/201...em-to-persist/
https://www.pri.org/stories/2011-08-...ission-problem
Honda has highs as good as the best of them, S2k's are retaining value better than Boxsters or Z3's after 20 years, ITR's are silly money, but their lows are just like anybody else.
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Originally Posted by jflogerzi
Good luck finding a CTR at MSRP.
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Hype is over, I only found 1 marked up in the area, the rest are listed at MSRP according to Cargurus.
https://www.hondaofstevenscreek.com/...15cf86aa02.htm
Getting a VN is still saving you >$7k even at sticker prices, but there's only 1 in the area vs. over a dozen CTR's. The next closest VN is in effing Bakersfield...
Edit: CTR's are starting to pop up used though, but at $33k I'd be fine financing the difference.