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Originally Posted by Tcoat
*Fire. Singular.
The cause of the failures is well documented and not a mystery. It is directly related to improper clean up and/or installation of the sealant. This is why the FA20 engines are having issues whereas the other Subaru engines involved are not since they use a different procedure to change the springs. The failures have nothing at all to do with the changed springs but the method in which the engine was accessed to get to them.
Yes, Toyota did change the instructions after the first few failures but all they did was include a warning to the techs to ensure that they cleaned up all the loose sealant. The issues did not reduce after that since techs that leave a mess still do so even when warned not to.
Trying to blame Toyota directly is grasping at straws.
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Originally Posted by killmequickly
I checked out NHTSA's website for 2013 frs under engine complaints and found 2.
https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2013/SCION/FR-S
You can find them under:
April 12, 2019
Incident Date: March 14, 2019
Consumer Location: San Anselmo, CA
March 12 2019
Incident Date: February 17, 2019
Consumer Location: El Cerrito, CA
I believe the infamous "TheDrive" article is the same person who registered their complaint on March 12 2019 with NHTSA, the incident dates match up as do the complaint information. |
*Fires. Plural.
There have been more than one documented on NHTSA
I would also like to point out that
Subaru's have been affected as well. You can check out the same NHTSA site under Subaru BRZ and find a handful of blown BRZ engines post recall as well. Also, if you do a quick google search you can find a BRZ's with the same issue as FR-S' post recall.
SO, there may be more to it than failure to follow instructions, an added warning, or shitty labor.
Like ermax stated, it could also be in conjunction with a design flaw, or a design oversight. Maybe the oil channels are smaller than previous designs or smaller than what should be the tolerated specification for this particular engine set up/design which in turn causes high oil pressure when blocked by certain sized particulates wheres if the oil channels were larger the same sized particulates would freely flow to the filter screen?
You are basically stating and in agreement with what I stated earlier. We know the J02 recall and changing the springs is not the root cause, however whatever is being done during the recall is contributing to the problem we now see.
I wouldn't go as far as to state that we know 100% without a doubt the entire mechanism and root cause of the problem, but we have enough evidence to make a few guesses and understand an overview of what is going on.