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Originally Posted by ermax
Your writing style shows incompetence. I’m not even sure what you post is trying to accomplish. Have you even read this thread at all? You do know that Toyota does not own dealers right? You do know what actually causes the failures right? It isn’t the valve springs that’s for sure. If someone wants a legitimate class action it will be related to the insufficient oil supply to the #2/3 rod journals. Those bearing failures are related to a design flaw rather than shity labor by privately owned dealers.
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Again, the fact that Toyota and Subaru don't own dealerships does not mean they cannot be found liable for problems that occur at the dealership level or from work stemming from the dealership. I believe it all depends on the details. For example, if Toyota accidentally gave wrong instructions, omitted instructions, failed to warn technicians about an issue, improperly trained technicians, or knowingly hid certain details about an issue from dealers and their technicians they could be found at fault (if proven) or jointly at fault (along with the dealer). Just because the dealerships do not belong to them does not give them an iron wall defense or resolve them of every and all responsibilities from issues which arise at the dealer level. Didn't Toyota change their instructions early on in the wake of the J02 recall after a few FR-S' started blowing? (or was it before?, can someone confirm?)
I think most of us understand that the replacement of the valve spring itself is not the root cause, however, I think what we are seeing is that the work that is performed during this recall is increasing the likelihood that the actual problem reveals itself. The fact remains that whatever the real problem is, the valve spring recall has allowed the problem to surface exponentially and is, in some way, directly or indirectly, contributing to the blown engines and I would argue most likely the fires as well.