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Originally Posted by strat61caster

With that kind of logic why ever bother going into this section?

Because swaps are often about bettering one’s position. Some could buy a Supra or LS300/IS300/GS300 if they want a 2JZ easier, but then they have an old car or an overpriced Supra If someone wants an LS then they have to buy a boat of a Camaro or drop some coin on a Corvette. As a racecar, this swap makes sense, but not as a full canbus daily; by the end of the swap, someone would likely drop Supra money into a car with less quality, less stiffness with weaker and cheaper components, etc. That just seems silly, but if someone wants to burn cash on a project then more power to them.

Originally Posted by DustinS

I think it could be a real fun swap. Most of it will be custom, so that is where the cost is going to be. I also am not sure how well any of the bmw auto transmission will fit, they seem to be quite large and will require more work to fit in the trans tunnel. Mount a manual may be an option, but more work again.

I am quite interested in the B58 as a lightweight all aluminum "2jz replacement".

No reason it has to be a racecar only option. Motec can control the factory canbus, just requires you to make your own harness and such. Pure's option is good because most of the hard work is done for you already, but no reason you have to stick to only their packages to do swaps.

It requires a custom harness, custom Motec ECU and custom tune. That could run $10k right there. For a turn key car with OEM driveability will easily cross $20k. Add a new car to that and you have the price of a new Supra. The weight difference between the 86 and Supra will approximate with the swap and the small difference in weight will be due to a huge diffErence in quality and expendables.

Originally Posted by MaverickMonk

With a b58 being about 80lbs lighter than the stock engine, you’d be looking at a supra powered 86 that weighs ~600lbs less than a supra. Probably
More like 500lbs due to custom fab stuff, but still.

80lbs lighter for an engine with two extra cylinders and a turbo system? Is the transmission lighter? Is the cooling system not getting upgraded? Is the active diff going into the swap? What about the larger brakes? What about the adaptive suspension? What about the thicker components? What about the stiffer chassis? What about the quality? Is this going to be a track/racecar or just a daily? Rims and tires getting upgraded too?

I think you are hoping to get something for free.