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rennlistuser3 · 07-07-2019, 03:09 PM

Hey everyone,

I'm trying to get my head around something technical in cars and thought I'd get feedback here.

The FT86 steering is 2.5 Turns Lock To Lock (tltl). The FT86 steering is the best steering I've ever experienced in my life. The main attributes are feel/accuracy/speed. I assumed the latter two were mainly due to the 2.5 tltl. But recently I tested my 2016 Mazda CX-5 and it was approximately 2.7 tltl. The CX-5 steering feels like a boat in comparison. Very slow to change directions, requiring a lot of steering angle to rotate at higher speeds whereas the FT86 just requires a slight angle to turn like a scalpel at even higher speeds. It's very hard to believe they're that close in terms of tltl. Driving back to back feels night and day.

I thought tltl is the major factor here but am I missing something? the new 2020 Ford Focus ST boasts a 2.0 tltl and I can't even get my head around how that would even work given that the CX-5 is only slightly slower tltl yet feels like a boat in comparison to the FT86.

What am I missing?

07-07-2019, 03:09 PM	#1
rennlistuser3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Drives: 2017 Subaru BRZ Location: Somewhere in the world Posts: 333 Thanks: 366 Thanked 177 Times in 107 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	lock to lock in relation to steering Hey everyone, I'm trying to get my head around something technical in cars and thought I'd get feedback here. The FT86 steering is 2.5 Turns Lock To Lock (tltl). The FT86 steering is the best steering I've ever experienced in my life. The main attributes are feel/accuracy/speed. I assumed the latter two were mainly due to the 2.5 tltl. But recently I tested my 2016 Mazda CX-5 and it was approximately 2.7 tltl. The CX-5 steering feels like a boat in comparison. Very slow to change directions, requiring a lot of steering angle to rotate at higher speeds whereas the FT86 just requires a slight angle to turn like a scalpel at even higher speeds. It's very hard to believe they're that close in terms of tltl. Driving back to back feels night and day. I thought tltl is the major factor here but am I missing something? the new 2020 Ford Focus ST boasts a 2.0 tltl and I can't even get my head around how that would even work given that the CX-5 is only slightly slower tltl yet feels like a boat in comparison to the FT86. What am I missing?