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Originally Posted by Lynxis
How is daily driving noise on the new HP+ compound? Also, is fade resistance better than the originals? Any comments on durability?
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Originally Posted by CrowsFeast
I'm new to these boards and as such have no reputation behind my statements but if you're only doing a couple of track days a year rather than outright competition then slap some HP+ pads on and go have fun!
Back when I started doing lapping I had a 2003 Golf (same weight, less power and grip than an FT86) and ran HPS pads. With good fluid I never had an issue. When I moved to my E46 BMW I went with the same pads. It was only when I got into time attack and started competing for the lead in my class that I started to overwhelm the HPS's; even in a car 500 lbs heavier than the FT86, with more power (especially more torque).
Just before switching cars I switched to DTC-60's with the plans to daily drive on those pads all track season and go back to HPS's for the winter (too lazy to switch every track day and had been told by several people that they had no issues dailying on them). Well the daily portion never came about but I did run them for 1 day on the track and the initial bite was a phenomenal difference to the HPS's. My braking points moved 10-15ft later but I didn't feel like I had the same ability to modulate the brakes.
There's most of my experience with brake pads.
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The reason I ask is because I'm looking for a dual duty pad for next year. I'll be due for new street pads and rotors by then, and won't have the finances to buy a dedicated set of pads if I want to get any track time in.
I ran HP+ about 4 years ago (It was my first year performance driving) and the problems weren't acceptable to me. The good parts were the bite and durability. After 4 track days, 10 autocross events and around 5000kms of daily driving, they still had around 70% pad material remaining. That said, the bad parts were show stoppers. In particular, they were way too noisy for street driving. They would be quiet for 2-3 days following a bedding cycle but then go back to sounding like a bus again. The fade resistance wasn't really up to scratch either, I was noticing a bit of pad fade at the end of 20 minute sessions at the end of my first season.
For comparison, I've used EBC Yellowstuff before and they have good street manners and fade resistance but they lack bite and I've gone through a set in a single season. I'm considering trying the Bluestuff NDX which I understand have better bite and wear (friend of mine has them on his RX8 and he likes them for dual-duty) but I'm open to considering other products that may also fit my needs.