[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

the literal definition is "a car designed for performance at high speed" the 86 can handle well at higher speeds, but it can not get to higher speeds to begin with at least not in any reasonable time frame . Adding 100HP to the 86 however makes it able to hit high speeds and at a reasonable rate. The 250whp/300crank was specifically in reference to the 86 platform. Not a universal number for all platforms to need to be classified as a true sports car.

Comparing a car from the early 90s, to a car in 2010+ is not very reasonable, the standard for speed has slowly dropped over the years as performance has gotten better and more attainable to more people. for example a 0-60 in the 7s in early 90s was considered fast, now you need to be in the low 5s. Which btw both a 2015 cayman and a 1991 nsx can do. so i am not really following anything your saying.

and Toyota Sienna and Dodge Caravan to name two, and if you look at 0-40mph the list would include a lot more. The point is a lot of minivans, compact suvs, and especially sedans. can keep up with a 86 off the line or even lower speed pulls. You would expect a true sports car to gap a minivan, not crawl away.

Ricer - "A person who makes unecessary modifications to their most often import car (hence the term "rice") to make it (mostly make it look) faster." The 86 is almost a rice mobile from the factory, designed to look fast but its slow, adding some HP though will make it as fast as it looks.

Dont get me wrong, i love this car, it has everything you could want from a sports car, except one of the most important factors, speed. However like I have said many times that can be fixed with about 4-5k$

https://www.zeroto60times.com/body-style/van/

https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicl...-60-mph-times/

….Why are you talking about Ricers now?