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Originally Posted by NeverInTime
The torque 'dip' has never been an issue for me commuting in LA traffic. If there's an opening in traffic that requires me to speed up quickly, a downshift ALWAYS gets me where I want to go. But I understand if you don't want to do that, it's easier not having to do so.
The BRZ is is only a money pit if you want to throw power mods at it, but that also applies to any car. There's plenty of people who mod their MX-5's with superchargers and tunes just like with the BRZ/86. Both car scenes have a robust aftermarket community, so I think it's just your perception of the people who drive these cars honestly. In the bay area and so cal, there are a ton of young guys with their modded-out FRS/86/BRZs, so I can understand where that comes from. However, keep in mind that the most visible (and sometimes the most audible ones) aren't indicative of the community average, a lot of the guys on here are as old (if not older) than you are.
My opinion based on reading your posts is that you're putting forth a pretty strong conscious effort to justify the MX-5 despite saying you're on the fence. I would honestly just stop playing devil's advocate with yourself and go with what you've been wanting all along. The MX-5 is a great car, and if you do want to take advantage of the occasional bout of good weather in the Bay (microclimates permitting), driving around with the top down is a experience unlike any other.
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Over the course of the two threads, (here and at Miata forum) I did start to drift towards the MX-5. Described why in the post you quoted. Prior to starting this, I was on the fence. To me, there are way more ways to mod the twins than the Miata. People who mod the Miata are most likely doing performance mods, and there are tons of branching off there. The twins however can go many more ways. Like I would probably not find someone looking to put 2 12' subs in their Miata, where I can / will totally do that with the BRZ. There's probably no way to put in an aftermarket deck at all with the HD. The BRZ is a straight up double din replacement.
I currently am looking to close on the MX-5 pending a free Android Auto retrofit. If I get that worked in, I'm going to sign it. If not, I'm looking to see if I can get a few hundred more off on a 19 BRZ limited with PP.
The way I'm seeing it now, I'll give up the throttle response of the ND for more practicality (I'm not comparing to a mini van) in the BRZ. Both cars will be fun to drive. Just that there are the fractions more on the MX-5 to me.
The torque dip here is literally the same as saying the MX-5 has a lot of body roll. You can drive around both, and be fast in both. It's just some will be completely turned off by body roll, while some would be turned off by a weird gap in power. I can put up with either honestly, but do find the throttle response more fitting to my wants. The BRZ is not a bad drive at all. I also like the fact that it encourages shifting, but sometimes, that encourages me to "other" things once I start flooring the pedal. This is why Goku don't go Super Saiyan everywhere he goes. You gotta pick and choose your fights. I think flat out both cars are stupid quick for what I'll plan on doing with it.