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Old 02-03-2019, 12:11 PM   #298
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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 View Post
What I’m saying is that RWD cars tend to oversteer by losing traction in the rear. This can be a natural property of the setup and suspension or throttle application. Inducing oversteer with the accelerator is obviously easier or proportional to hp/kg.

Some cars may be setup to “steer with the pedal” with understeer as the default behavior, but oversteer with throttle application. The 86 is an example of this. Oversteer is easy to correct by letting off the gas, but not as much if the car always wants to understeer or even is neutral. Watch reviews of high powered vehicles and you will notice understeer (sometimes even too much understeer in the reviewer’s opinion) is prevalent, and it is probably designed that way:

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The Miata and Elise are on the same 90” wheelbase, whereas the Corvette is on a 106” wheelbase. The short wheelbase lends itself to less rotational inertia meaning it will change directions faster and easier. Add tons of power with a twitchy throttle to a short wheelbase car then that can also be a recipe for oversteer.
I think you're giving Ariel and it's design team too much credit. Yeah it's still a bucket list car and I'm not trying to detract from that. It's just flawed. Whether it's love despite the flaws or because of it is beyond my experience. As far as the comparison between the elise and a miata, I'm going to trust my years of ownership over a few cherry picked stat off a spec sheet every time.
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