[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Oh you mean the company that was already cramming those engines into econo-boxes and crossovers before the ND was even revealed?

Subaru bears the burden of production costs, the FA20 is unique to the 86 and shares minimal costs with the rest of Subaru's lineup (very few parts are shared with the turbo motor). Subaru builds fewer cars than Mazda does, Toyota's just writing the check to buy some of the cars when it comes to production.

Subaru ~941k cars built in 2018
https://www.subaru.co.jp/en/ir/finance/performance.html
Mazda 1.195 million cars built in 2018
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...on-since-2006/
This targets 1.6 million for Mazda.
https://www.automotiveworld.com/news...t-record-year/

Same deal with BMW, the B48/B58 has been on the road for 5 years or more, the cost of cramming it another chassis is peanuts compared to developing a whole new engine for a niche car. BMW is also a much bigger automaker than Subaru or Mazda, they can absorb the work a lot more easily than the small companies can.

Solid post, with good points.

Which I'll counter with by pointing out that Mazda made an entirely new bespoke chassis for the ND. Meanwhile Subaru's BRZ platform is shared with Toyota and borrows design heavily from other Subaru products.