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Old 01-29-2019, 12:36 PM   #228
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I think this is about the strongest and saddest statement in this thread.

Sadly the main problem is consumers don't even really buy sports cars enough to begin with and add on top of that they prioritize performance figures and luxury over things like lightweight.

There's also another factor I don't believe was ever mentioned in this thread

People tend to also buy sports cars to validate themselves in society. They take that into account. So they might be OK with say a Miata or an FT86 but don't want to get scorned for having a slow car or a "lady's car" in the case of the Miata. Also they think what will their friends say when they go for a ride with them and they floor it and their friends go: "is that it?". So do to such insecurities, they'll go buy the big fat Mustang GT. Not to bring down the Mustang, I like that car personally, but I do hate this dynamic of society where you buy a car to satisfy those around you rather than yourself.

Yes it is harsh. It is also the reality of the situation. Everybody wants to whine and cry that this feature is going away and it is sad they are changing but do they buy a new car when it is available? No they don't want to spend that money so they buy a used one. The car companies are not charities. They will make what sells. End of story.

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Yeah I am talking about the ND specifically in this case as an example of what I would like to see in the FT86 and I believe it is doable.

Honestly I don't want to come across as bringing down the FT86, it's a glorious car (I own one after driving the MX-5 Nd and choosing the FT86 so I would know), but I'm saying, looking at what the ND has recently accomplished, there is more room for improvement on the FT86 and it would be very welcomed.

I am planning on writing a long term review on my BRZ probably sometimes in May and I will specifically highlight what I would like to have improved on it. But for now, my point is that the FT86 doesn't need much to be very competitive today. It's just Toyota/Subaru seem not to be that interested.
But you can not ignore the history and say "this one off event is how Toyota should do it".
Why do you feel it is doable? Because you want it? Why is it not already competitive? Toyota and Subaru gave the world the car that was asked for why would they be interested in changing it to please 20% of the very few people that bought it?
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