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Originally Posted by ZDan
Not really. One of my students last year had done a skidpad school on the OEM Primacies and says he spun like 50 times (OK maybe 20...)! He didn't want to turn off stability control at the track for fear of spinning on 215 RE71R tires. But the fact is the RE71R has a TON more grip while sliding than the OEM Primacies. So we at least got to run "track mode", though I think he would have been totally fine with the "5 second hold" on TC button or with the "pedal dance".
The car is way easier to control at and beyond the limit on good sticky tires than the OEM tires. Yes, you will be going faster when you start to slide, but the residual grip is SO much greater that control is easier to maintain.
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I 100% disagree with what you are saying. Stickier tires are absolutely not easier to control once you cross the limit. The stickier a tire is, generally speaking, the less warning you have as you approach the limit. Also that increased lateral grip means that when the tire does let go it is much more violent. Conversely, when the tire hooks up again, that transition is ALSO more violent, and makes snap oversteer much more likely to occur. And when the car is sliding, the added grip potential of those stickier tires means you need much more power to control them and "maintain the slide," or in the case of a low-power car with the BRZ, it requires much more aggressive throttle inputs.
This is the reason why (with all the driver aids off on both vehicles) a stock BRZ is easy to drive at the limit, but a stock supercar is not. Not just because you have to be going much faster in the Lambo or Ferrari, but because those cars have ginormous, sticky tires, that will happily bring you right up to the limits of their enormous grip, and then suddenly let go with little warning. It's a much larger transition to no grip when you have a lot more grip to begin with. And when those tires hook up suddenly, it will be violent AF!