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Originally Posted by strat61caster
That's a dubious claim, it's based off the 2015+ Prius platform, not exactly being praised for handling right now. The base '18 Corolla sedan is only $300 cheaper than the Civic sedan, I'll be very surprised if the hatch comes in any cheaper.
I'll throw a few hundred bucks Honda's way to shave a second off that 0-60 time, C&D is estimating >8s 0-60 for the new 'yota whereas the Civic Hatch CVT is hovering around 7.0
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...t-drive-review
They're not too positive on the '18 sedan's handling capabilities either (note the comparisons are for the 2.0L NA Civic & outgoing Corolla engine, not the 1.5L turbo)
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-driver-page-4
Weight will be the same, ~3k lbs for both, maybe a slight edge to the Civic as I've seen <2,900 reported some places. TTAC saying 3,000 for the Corolla hatch.
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...t-second-time/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...tomatic-review
I already know I can bolt on the rear sway bar from a Type-R, $100 from the factory to get that extra bit of rotation along with pulling the alignment pins out of the front for an extra 0.3 degrees of camber, 8" factory wheels (and shared chassis dimensions with the Civic Type R) mean I can cram 245's in there if I can get the SO hooked on autox or keep it relatively affordable with 225's. Not sure what the Corolla can stuff under the fenders but Tirerack was only showing me 225's when I looked (it will upgrade tire sizes if applicable, like for the FRS/BRZ when shopping for 9" wheels). Not to mention the easy to crank up the turbo if the SO gets interested in feeding it more gas for smiles.
Thanks for making me look into this more, the Corolla is unlikely to be a contender for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not set in my ways, but the current sedan doesn't seem to be a promising contender and there's only so much engineering they can do, on paper the only thing that looks like it swings in the Corolla's favor is the shorter wheelbase maybe a more comfortable ride... And I guess the pretty blue color and the drift car they sponsored. If there's one on the lot I can test drive before I buy something else I will, but if not I don't think I'll be broken hearted about it. |
The current Corolla sedan does not share a platform with the 2019 Corolla hatch yet. That happens in 2020, when the redesigned sedan goes to TNGA.
The cars on the TNGA platform right now are the 15+ Prius, 18+ Camry, 19+ Avalon, 19+ Corolla hatch (not current sedan, but upcoming 2020 sedan), upcoming 2019 Rav4, I think the CHR is as well...
I don't think Toyota has really tweaked the suspension setups for outright handling/performance in any of their new TNGA cars (I think the Yaris GRMN trim would be the closest to it, but its not a TNGA car) but the TNGA platform is known to make the Toyota cars fun again.
Its why all the headlines for the TNGA cars have been "Prius is actually fun to drive!" or "Camry is fun to drive!!", "This is the most fun Corolla in a long long time!"