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Originally Posted by gtpvette
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Kind of a weird deal. The Miata is my firm's car (but I'm the only one who uses it). So I don't want to dump money into it. It's a great car to have, and it will be there for when I want it.
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Originally Posted by Sleepless
@ GrandSport do you still have the Miata? If yes, I'm not sure the 86 is faster and it certainly is more balanced... |
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Originally Posted by CatDaddysBBQ
It genuinely depends on what you're after.
Honestly, a m3 will still seem somewhat slow compared to the vette, so it's a matter of what the goal is.
If you're trying to make a fun track toy that is (pretty) reliable, dynamic and fun that uses pretty cheap consumables at a fairly slow rate? 86 cars are fantastic for that.
If you're trying to get as close to your corvette for cheaper running costs, the 86 is probably not a great choice. Even with a supercharger it'd feel slow if outright speed is your primary focus. The M3 would be a nice middle ground, but I imagine the running costs would be in between (but possibly closer to the corvette than the 86).
As for the mods, a header and tune will help a BIT, but it won't transform into some fast straight line monster by ANY means. One could argue that the header and tune does more for it as a street car than a track car - the lack of torque dip is a greater gain than the 15-18hp up top is.
That said, what kind of tracks are you going to? If you're on shorter circuits (like 2.25 and under with 8+ turns) you may not care, and LOVE the twins for that. If you're on a larger course with some serious straights they're really going to feel gutless as you wave 3 cars past on every straight section.
Around chicago area where I live, there's a few track options. When I go to Blackhawk Farms (short technical circuit) I honestly don't feel that my frs (with a header/tune) is that slow - not many things can keep up in the twisty bit between t2 and t6, and fine, on the straight I let people pass.
But at Autobahn CC (especially the full 4+ mile configuration) it seems like i'm driving a go-kart. There are multiple passing places where I let half the pack go by some days, but I reel them in during braking zones, turns, etc.
So really, you need to decide what you're looking for. Fun, dynamic and cheap? OR Fun, pretty dynamic, quick(not fast) and medium costs?
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Unless I get a C5Z06, I'm not approaching the GS's speed or lap times. I'm aware of this. I'm not looking for a GS. I actually want less power (and weight!) and consumables. I'm looking for something between the Miata and GS that I won't get bored with.
Really, a spec boxter would be ideal, but I don't have $30k to drop on this car. Maybe in a year or two I could, if I'm not paying GS operational cost.
As far as tracks: ECR definitely loves power, but they are changing it up a bit. It's probably 50-50 power vs technical now. I'd imagine it will 40-60 after the new layout. MSR-C is between 40-60 and 25-75 depending on the layout we're running. COTA is a huge track, but I'd be driving the Grand Sport there.