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Old 09-30-2018, 09:09 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by AndyBRZ View Post
You have received great input in this thread. In my opinion the BRZ is not for everybody. Like you, I have access to cars much faster than the BRZ in the track.
Said that, I find myself always taking the BRZ to HPDE track events because I absolutely adore the challenge to drive it at the limit in order to extract a good lap. Also, the consumables are ridiculously low. It is the most consistent car at the limit that I have ever owned and I had a bunch of good Miatas that were very reliable as well.
If you have time, please read Car and Driver in their October issue. Go to page 47 and read the story about their lightening lap. It sums it all. Look forward to see you in an FRS or BRZ soon!
Yeah, I'll still track the Grand Sport- Maybe 3-4x a year for variety. It's a dream to drive, but a monster to pay for. Plus, I always learn more in slower cars.

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I totally understand the not wanting to beat up or wreck a $70K car (that's my limit on the most I'd risk!). There is track insurance for that though.

The issue with a non-FI FT86 is that you will not be able to play with your friends. I drove my NA BRZ on the track for 2 years and the car was a blast and a great learning tool. BUT, in the advanced groups, it is hard to have fun with others when they are all driving cars that are so much faster, including my friends. So, I finally threw in the towel and went FI. That was 3 seasons ago and I've been able to play with most of the field since.

The problem is that to get a well setup FI FT86, it costs $'s. At that point, given you already have the Vette, I'd spend the money on it and on track insurance.

I offer that advice only if you're trying to spend wisely and not from the heart! My heart requires me to own and track all of the following in performance order: Miata RF, BRZ, 944 w LS3, 14 GTR. The BRZ and 944 are purely track cars. The GTR is new to me and I've avoided taking it beyond stock, but like your Vette, it is stupid fast and a lot of fun with the high speed cars and have now had to pull the trigger on a half cage, harnesses, track wheels and tires... My point is, spend the money to make the Vette safe and on track insurance and enjoy.

If, you have more money to spend, by all means get the BRZ. IMO it would be for the heart and not for saving money...
Man, track insurance is $400-500/day with an FRS as the deductible. It's not practical for 15-20 track days a year.

My friends drive Spec Boxters and run 2:03-2:04 range. I definitely think I can get an FRS there. There is a 2:06 video in this thread on street tires. It's pretty good driving but I think I can find a second (again, not a knock on him, but I am a member there and know that track forward and back). On a good HPDE type tire like an NT01 I think I can run a 2:04.

If anything, my GS is on the other side of the curve. I ran a 1:56 in it. The owners have a GT3RS and they're about a second faster than me. Most everything else is at least 4 seconds slower

I'm not going to FI the FRZ. I'm just not interested in that can of worms. In a year or two, I'll find something in the 3-400hp category if I'm bored. I don't think I'll get hurt too bad on the FRZ, even if I put 7500 miles on it in 2 years. I bet I'd be able to sell it quickly for $8k and sell the aftermarket stuff and extra wheels too.
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