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GrandSport · 09-22-2018, 09:10 PM

Hi everyone- new member here. HPDE track rat, no competitive racing. I have a mostly stock C7 Grand Sport I've been tracking, but it's getting really expensive- close to $400/hr of run time. I also1990 Miata in "track" form. It's gutted with an intake, exhaust roll bar adn harness. I'm ready for something better- something between the Miata and C7.

I'd either have to dump serious time and cash into the miata or look elsewhere. Considering it has almost 200k on the clock, and the last thing I have is spare garage room and time, I'm inclined to look elsewhere.

The two cars I'm looking at are a FRS and an E36 M3. The M3 has basically everything from suspension to done from E46 6spd to euro engine with heads and cam and Willwood 6piston calipers and 4piston rear. It makes 265whp and likely weighs the same as the FRS since it's completely gutted. It's about $6000.00.

The FRS I'm looking at has a few minor dings and scratches but overall good shape. It has a suspension noise that is a strut mount. Other than that, good shape. Below is my friend's FRS- he's asking $10.5k

Car comes with spare wheels and 2 spare sets of track tires, new clutch last month.
List of upgrades:
White line sways f/r 3 way adjustable
RCE springs 225# all around lowered car 20mm
Stock shocks
Rear white line subframe brace
White line top hats
Camber bolts
Perrin cat back exhaust 2.5
Motegi 17x7.5 wheels
Goodrich steel brake lines
Open flags tablet tuner
Uninstalled OFT headers with head gasket

POWER:
I definitely trust the FRS more and figure it's going to be less of a headache. However, I'm very concerned about FRS power. I don't want to end up with a newer more expensive miata. My miata is probably about 120hp and 1900lbs, and it's definitely slower than this FRS, but I don't want to spend $10k and make marginal upgrade. I would probably take some stuff out to make it lighter, but I will probably add more weight with a 4 point and aero upgrades (I've fallen in love with aero).

How much more power will it make with a tune, intake, OFT header and catback?

BRAKES:
I've been reading a lot about the brakes and I'm not sure if I'll need to upgrade with a big brake kit or not. It seems like I can get a good brake kit for under $2k, maybe even $1500. Is this necessary? I doubt I'll run slicks, but I will run something like an NT01 or R888R. Maybe even a semi-slick. I'm planning to add coilovers and BBK, but next year. I'd rather not drop $5k on it right off the bat.

WEIGHT:
How much weight can I drop from this car removing stuff like rear seats, but not removing so much that I need to tow it around. IE: I'd like to keep AC. Is 200lbs unreasonable?

Anything else I should know about before getting into this? Reliability?

Thanks in advance!

09-22-2018, 09:10 PM	#1
GrandSport Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Drives: 13 Viper; 14 BRZ; 90 Miata; 18 AMG Location: TX Posts: 382 Thanks: 82 Thanked 230 Times in 128 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Contemplating FRS for track car Hi everyone- new member here. HPDE track rat, no competitive racing. I have a mostly stock C7 Grand Sport I've been tracking, but it's getting really expensive- close to $400/hr of run time. I also1990 Miata in "track" form. It's gutted with an intake, exhaust roll bar adn harness. I'm ready for something better- something between the Miata and C7. I'd either have to dump serious time and cash into the miata or look elsewhere. Considering it has almost 200k on the clock, and the last thing I have is spare garage room and time, I'm inclined to look elsewhere. The two cars I'm looking at are a FRS and an E36 M3. The M3 has basically everything from suspension to done from E46 6spd to euro engine with heads and cam and Willwood 6piston calipers and 4piston rear. It makes 265whp and likely weighs the same as the FRS since it's completely gutted. It's about $6000.00. The FRS I'm looking at has a few minor dings and scratches but overall good shape. It has a suspension noise that is a strut mount. Other than that, good shape. Below is my friend's FRS- he's asking $10.5k Car comes with spare wheels and 2 spare sets of track tires, new clutch last month. List of upgrades: White line sways f/r 3 way adjustable RCE springs 225# all around lowered car 20mm Stock shocks Rear white line subframe brace White line top hats Camber bolts Perrin cat back exhaust 2.5 Motegi 17x7.5 wheels Goodrich steel brake lines Open flags tablet tuner Uninstalled OFT headers with head gasket POWER: I definitely trust the FRS more and figure it's going to be less of a headache. However, I'm very concerned about FRS power. I don't want to end up with a newer more expensive miata. My miata is probably about 120hp and 1900lbs, and it's definitely slower than this FRS, but I don't want to spend $10k and make marginal upgrade. I would probably take some stuff out to make it lighter, but I will probably add more weight with a 4 point and aero upgrades (I've fallen in love with aero). How much more power will it make with a tune, intake, OFT header and catback? BRAKES: I've been reading a lot about the brakes and I'm not sure if I'll need to upgrade with a big brake kit or not. It seems like I can get a good brake kit for under $2k, maybe even $1500. Is this necessary? I doubt I'll run slicks, but I will run something like an NT01 or R888R. Maybe even a semi-slick. I'm planning to add coilovers and BBK, but next year. I'd rather not drop $5k on it right off the bat. WEIGHT: How much weight can I drop from this car removing stuff like rear seats, but not removing so much that I need to tow it around. IE: I'd like to keep AC. Is 200lbs unreasonable? Anything else I should know about before getting into this? Reliability? Thanks in advance!