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Tcoat · 07-13-2018, 01:03 PM

Oh for fuck sake somebody show me all these failures that everybody is so worked up about lately. Put some hard numbers in front of me not just "there are too many"

This forum has had about 40 reported bearing failures in stock engines. TOTAL. Out of the 128,000 members that are, or have been, on this forum. At least 95% of those failures are early 13s. Some of those are no doubt caused by the owner themselves no matter how much they say they did everything perfect. There are tens of thousands of them driving around with over 100,000 miles that have never had an issue. Check any reliability list you wish and see what the big issues have been. Ya, they were squeaks, leaky taillights and a noisy (but working fine) fuel pump. Disaster, we should start class action suits right away.
A forum is the very fucking WORST place to determine if there are issues with a car since that is where every person that does have a problem heads. The 99% that don't have a problem just don't say anything so the whole perception of things is badly skewed.

Are there problems with some? Certainly, but there are problems with some of any car made and this whole "the sky is falling" mentality being lead by a couple of people that can't be bothered to check the real numbers is just stupidity.

If people are so convinced their car is doomed they should just sell it and move on. Oh but wait... Then they will just whine about how little value it has since they managed to perpetuate the myth that it they are all crap and not worth owning.

07-13-2018, 01:03 PM	#56
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,841 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,295 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2499 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	Oh for fuck sake somebody show me all these failures that everybody is so worked up about lately. Put some hard numbers in front of me not just "there are too many" This forum has had about 40 reported bearing failures in stock engines. TOTAL. Out of the 128,000 members that are, or have been, on this forum. At least 95% of those failures are early 13s. Some of those are no doubt caused by the owner themselves no matter how much they say they did everything perfect. There are tens of thousands of them driving around with over 100,000 miles that have never had an issue. Check any reliability list you wish and see what the big issues have been. Ya, they were squeaks, leaky taillights and a noisy (but working fine) fuel pump. Disaster, we should start class action suits right away. A forum is the very fucking WORST place to determine if there are issues with a car since that is where every person that does have a problem heads. The 99% that don't have a problem just don't say anything so the whole perception of things is badly skewed. Are there problems with some? Certainly, but there are problems with some of any car made and this whole "the sky is falling" mentality being lead by a couple of people that can't be bothered to check the real numbers is just stupidity. If people are so convinced their car is doomed they should just sell it and move on. Oh but wait... Then they will just whine about how little value it has since they managed to perpetuate the myth that it they are all crap and not worth owning. __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.