[DarkPira7e]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

Hey! Glad you're enjoying them, and happy they are increasing your rice factor

I went through a phase where I was all about "maximum optimized performance" blah blah. Then I realized that it's a moving target. Stock tires are fun, and great for learning. They have some pretty undesirable characteristics, but the way they chirp, squeek, squeal, and complain under any sort of duress at all proves to be a great learning tool. Stock suspension could use a better compound. Upgrade your suspension and you really need a better compound, and possibly slightly wider tires. Change to 18" rims you're likely increasing unsprung weight/rotational mass. On and on. But - I like my coilovers not only for how they handle, but how easy they are to adjust, how nicely they dampen over weird imperfections in normal driving. I love how my 18's look & how they fill the wheel wells, despite their weight, scrub radius yadda yadda. I love my ride height, even though it's low enough to negatively impact my handling. On the street, my car without a doubt handles better than stock, and more than I'll need in 99% of my driving. I realized I'll get more personal enjoyment out of the aesthetics and I won't miss any subtle negative change in performance. YMMV

Yeah I agree with moving target. After having over built previous cars' suspension, I'm only doing eibach pro kit, alignment, these wheels with decent tires and turbo. If you take all the roll out of the car, you end up driving faster until you find it..