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Originally Posted by shaynek
we 13 owners need to file for a class action law suite against Toyota/Subaru lol. they sell garbage to customers and try to deny warranty. I personally would never buy another garbage from Subaru/Toyota
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Read the "Hint" on this page from the service manual:
https://demos.starbase7.net/t3Portal...44588675128151
They are saying this engine consumes oil at 1US QT every 2000 miles. This info should be in the owner's manual that comes with the car. Not the shop manual that the average person will never see. This tidbit in itself is class actionable IMO. 1qt every 2000 miles is what most manufacturers would consider excessive.. not normal. How many modern cars require at least 2 top offs between oil change intervals... hell how many cars require any top offs at all between changes? I got my car used, changed the oil on day one and only put about 4000 miles on it before spinning a bearing. during that 4000 miles I did top it off a few times (1/4qt each time) which I just attributed to the age of my car until I read that crap in the service manual. We are car guys so we are the type that will check our oil all the time. Your average person will not check their oil level regularly. They will just change the oil at the recommended interval and call it a day. I always thought it was odd that the change interval was so short on this car considering it requires synthetic. Most modern cars with synthetic have a 10k+ interval. For example BMW says 15K. They knew this car drank oil so they gave it a short interval. I'm surprised these cars don't blow purple smoke with this level of consumption.
Long story short I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the failures are do to the consumption problem. I got my car used and I'm just going to cross my fingers that mine spun due to neglect from the previous owner. I hope that when I finish rebuilding mine that it will be okay in the long run because I check my level regularly. But I still think Subaru/Toyota needs to be more upfront about the consumption being so high. If they were more upfront they wouldn't be able to sell the cars though. 1qt/2000mi is a joke.