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Old 06-28-2018, 10:30 PM   #40
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Originally Posted by strat61caster View Post
That's a dubious claim, it's based off the 2015+ Prius platform, not exactly being praised for handling right now. The base '18 Corolla sedan is only $300 cheaper than the Civic sedan, I'll be very surprised if the hatch comes in any cheaper.

I'll throw a few hundred bucks Honda's way to shave a second off that 0-60 time, C&D is estimating >8s 0-60 for the new 'yota whereas the Civic Hatch CVT is hovering around 7.0
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...t-drive-review

They're not too positive on the '18 sedan's handling capabilities either (note the comparisons are for the 2.0L NA Civic & outgoing Corolla engine, not the 1.5L turbo)
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-driver-page-4

Weight will be the same, ~3k lbs for both, maybe a slight edge to the Civic as I've seen <2,900 reported some places. TTAC saying 3,000 for the Corolla hatch.
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...t-second-time/

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...tomatic-review

I already know I can bolt on the rear sway bar from a Type-R, $100 from the factory to get that extra bit of rotation along with pulling the alignment pins out of the front for an extra 0.3 degrees of camber, 8" factory wheels (and shared chassis dimensions with the Civic Type R) mean I can cram 245's in there if I can get the SO hooked on autox or keep it relatively affordable with 225's. Not sure what the Corolla can stuff under the fenders but Tirerack was only showing me 225's when I looked (it will upgrade tire sizes if applicable, like for the FRS/BRZ when shopping for 9" wheels). Not to mention the easy to crank up the turbo if the SO gets interested in feeding it more gas for smiles.

Thanks for making me look into this more, the Corolla is unlikely to be a contender for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not set in my ways, but the current sedan doesn't seem to be a promising contender and there's only so much engineering they can do, on paper the only thing that looks like it swings in the Corolla's favor is the shorter wheelbase maybe a more comfortable ride... And I guess the pretty blue color and the drift car they sponsored. If there's one on the lot I can test drive before I buy something else I will, but if not I don't think I'll be broken hearted about it.
I drove both. If you can take the test drive on some spirited runs, you should.

The civic has more power potential and yeah it probably will have a better aftermarket.

As far as pricing. The Corolla Hatch only has 2 grades, the Civic Hatch has 5 grades so pricing varies. Both SE and XSE are pretty well equipped.

BTW even though Hatch and Sedan may both be on TNGA platform, the Hatch is a different vehicle, has different suspension, active cornering, and if you have CVT, it holds your you at a higher "gear" during spirited cornering instead of up-shifting you unnecessarily.
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