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Originally Posted by HKz
..still don't think traction control is the issue here...the issue is decision making on public roads..if someone is trying to hoon like in op's case, TC being on or off ain't going to save him..he took a corner too fast, TC ain't going to correct his speed.. TC's best use case is to save drivers who aren't trying to lose traction. As for what is "safe", I think people can be capable of making calculated risks. I pass a roundabout during my commute and when I don't see any pedestrians or other cars, I sometimes hoon around it...send me to hell  I agree, there are clearly limits when doing such things but don't act like everyone is some careless dumbass.. |
it is not about being a careless dumbass, it is about the idea that turning tc off is normal. And yes, tc can absolutely help if you go too fast into a corner, that is what it is for. There is nothing wrong with doing it safely like normal people like you and me and others do. Young inexperienced drivers are not capable of making calculated risks, yet are lead to believe tc is useless. That is the real problem.
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Originally Posted by ZionsWrath
I spun my car at NJMP Lightning turn 1 with the 5 second press. Traction control is not perfect. I've since just do the dpedal dance.
This is my first car with "nannies" besides ABS. The first time I spun it was weird feeling trying to give throttle but it was just cutting power. Felt like the twilight zone. Maybe more advanced systems are better at it but this one seems very basic and overprotective.
On regular street driving I tend to leave it on as I'm not trying to set personal bests getting to work in NY traffic. In sedate driving it doesn't bother me because it doesn't activate I guess
I don't know what my point here is. Maybe it is just don't drive 10/10 on the street and it is possible to spin and/or crash no matter what the state of the nannies.
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it is always possible to spin the car even with tc. I'm just saying there is a time and a place, and the track is that. So many of these crashes are because inexperienced drivers turn off tc and behave recklessly. TC might not have saved them, but then again it could have.
I just think the community needs to stress not to turn tc off unless you know how to drive and know what you are doing. Especially since the value of these cars are dropping to where even kids will be able to buy them easily. Our driver training sucks.