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Originally Posted by nikitopo
1) What comes first the chicken or the egg? You can't really answer such questions. It is all about what kind of society you want and then you try in a direction, but as you said it is a political discussion so I won't go further.
2) Just keep in mind that when a factory says that FI would "ruin" a car they have to satisfy also all the different parameters in countries. If they were selling the car in a single country, then things might be much easier ...
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1) Yes, that was my point all along. The basic argument you and Ho are having is about socialism vs capitalism. At the abstract level, you both are in what I call "violent agreement", meaning you are both saying the same thing from different viewpoints, and getting angry at the other for not having the same viewpoint. We can all agree that you can't just stick any coil of metal on your car and say it has effective suspension. This argument is just about how you determine what coils of metal are considered safe, and that is politics.
2) Agreed. It's not just laws, but also the engineering and business standards of both Subaru and Toyota. See my post on the first page which I feel does a good job of explaining this.